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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    Cheers Steve, I see that certain Swaylocks trolls are having a field day, it is fortunate for them that I can't post there or I would take them apart brick by brick!

    They post a lot of nonsense actually, for example the claim that the majority of people who have ridden the 13 ft Ghost board think it is a joke, In fact almost all those who have ridden it have praised the way it rides in no uncertain terms.

    They also go on about my supposedly wild claims, but the only time they actually say what these claims are they post claims which I have never made.

    The allegations that my boards don't achieve the 'fundamentals' of design are also ludicrous and without substance, they are clinging desperately to industry myths.

    As for the allegation that I have an overblown ego, I don't understand what that means so can't answer it... it lacks any real content in surfboard design terms.

    Perhaps they should post their waist measurements when commenting?

    Here's Bill Thraillkill the mortgage broker of 'hoax fin' fame ( on the left ) he once told a surfermag forum member that he would sue him and make him sell his kidneys to pay for having mocked him via parody... one couldn't make these people up:

    So you are posting a defense of things said about you on another forum, on this forum. I am not sure if that is ego or just a mental disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    ... they are clinging desperately to industry myths.
    Which myths are you referring to? I'm not clear on what an "industry myth" is... can you give a few examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Which myths are you referring to? I'm not clear on what an "industry myth" is... can you give a few examples?
    Don't you think you're asking for a little too much?? lol.

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    There are some members of Swaylocks that love to trash my recent build which was inspired by Roy's work. These people make posts trashing the design but can't seem to provide any good explanation. I have heard things like "it won't work because round rails grab water instead of releasing it". That's the level of thinking in that forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve83 View Post
    I have heard things like "it won't work because round rails grab water instead of releasing it". That's the level of thinking in that forum.
    To me thats a good level of thinking. Its only one design aspect (and might even be a desirable design aspect depending on how you want the board to perform) but at least its criticism that's based on some functional characteristic of the board. I'm no expert on rails...is that a bad assessment? I've thought it made some sense...round rails drawing water up instead of releasing it might slow a board down and affect turns.

    To me it's better level of thinking than worrying about wetsuit color, cost, lack of sales, broken boards, etc.

    By the way, and I think i said it before, fantastic job on the board. I really hope you find some good waves for it.
    Last edited by mitchell; May 12, 2013 at 07:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve83 View Post
    There are some members of Swaylocks that love to trash my recent build which was inspired by Roy's work. These people make posts trashing the design but can't seem to provide any good explanation. I have heard things like "it won't work because round rails grab water instead of releasing it". That's the level of thinking in that forum.
    That's all well and good, but there is no reason to bring that trash on to our forum. We have enough Roy trash without inheriting stuff from other forums.

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    Brewengineer you are correct, there's no need to import that swaylocks trash here since you and a few others manufacture it right here yourselves.

    The only difference is that here you are held accountable.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Which myths are you referring to? I'm not clear on what an "industry myth" is... can you give a few examples?

    Let's start with a classic one: that surfboards need a tapered profile.


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  9. #49
    Roy if you didn't post to this thread again I doubt it would have ever made it back up to relevance.

    I think my issues are with your pricing. Granted its your call as to how much they cost but its reasonable to want to know why they cost so much.
    could you give us a breakdown of what materials cost, your labor fee and your markup?

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post

    I'm no expert on rails...is that a bad assessment? I've thought it made some sense...round rails drawing water up instead of releasing it might slow a board down and affect turns.

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    Rail shapes are interesting to discuss.