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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve83 View Post
    I have heard things like "it won't work because round rails grab water instead of releasing it". That's the level of thinking in that forum.
    To me thats a good level of thinking. Its only one design aspect (and might even be a desirable design aspect depending on how you want the board to perform) but at least its criticism that's based on some functional characteristic of the board. I'm no expert on rails...is that a bad assessment? I've thought it made some sense...round rails drawing water up instead of releasing it might slow a board down and affect turns.

    To me it's better level of thinking than worrying about wetsuit color, cost, lack of sales, broken boards, etc.

    By the way, and I think i said it before, fantastic job on the board. I really hope you find some good waves for it.
    Last edited by mitchell; May 12, 2013 at 06:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve83 View Post
    There are some members of Swaylocks that love to trash my recent build which was inspired by Roy's work. These people make posts trashing the design but can't seem to provide any good explanation. I have heard things like "it won't work because round rails grab water instead of releasing it". That's the level of thinking in that forum.
    That's all well and good, but there is no reason to bring that trash on to our forum. We have enough Roy trash without inheriting stuff from other forums.

  3. #53
    Brewengineer you are correct, there's no need to import that swaylocks trash here since you and a few others manufacture it right here yourselves.

    The only difference is that here you are held accountable.

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Which myths are you referring to? I'm not clear on what an "industry myth" is... can you give a few examples?

    Let's start with a classic one: that surfboards need a tapered profile.


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  5. #55
    Roy if you didn't post to this thread again I doubt it would have ever made it back up to relevance.

    I think my issues are with your pricing. Granted its your call as to how much they cost but its reasonable to want to know why they cost so much.
    could you give us a breakdown of what materials cost, your labor fee and your markup?

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post

    I'm no expert on rails...is that a bad assessment? I've thought it made some sense...round rails drawing water up instead of releasing it might slow a board down and affect turns.

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    Rail shapes are interesting to discuss.

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    By "tapered profile" do you mean nose-to-tail "foil" or "thickness flow?" I don't know if I'd call that an industry myth. I've played with foil and changing foil does change performance characteristics. So I'd argue that the foils you see on boards today, made with foam and fiberglass, serve a purpose. Again... it's what you're after. Some surfboards DO need a certain type of foil in order to perform in a certain way, just like your boards need a certain profile to perform a certain way.

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    Rail shapes are interesting to discuss.
    I listen to the guys that ride finless boards very closely when they talk about rails.

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post

    could you give us a breakdown of what materials cost, your labor fee and your markup?
    Yes:

    %*&@@ + $$$$$$ = $$$$$$$$

    I hope that helps.

  10. #60
    From Geoff McCoy:

    "Roy I have a good look at your website, absolutely amazing your craftsmanship creativity is mind blowing, great stuff."