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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    The localism aspect of Ruggles is overblown. Don't get me wrong, I've certainly heard the horror stories, and been on the receiving end of a few looks, but like anywhere else, if you show respect, for the most part no one is going to bother you. Don't let the actions of a few pricks and an exaggerated reputation fool you, and certainly don't let that deter you from wanting to save the wave - lord knows we're starved for classic waves that can hold the size around here.

    uh-oh, i mentioned the man upstairs, where's wayne?
    Beat me to it.

    Funny thing is, my buddy and I were up there last fall for the Katia swell driving around with NC tags. We were a freaking novelty for most of the guys in the parking lot at Pt. Judith. Didn't really experience any vibe at any of the breaks we surfed and met some really friendly people. There was a lot of "where the hell is that accent from" immediately followed by "hope you're getting some good ones while you're up here."

    Gaff--you wouldn't believe the out of proportion rep Cali has over here!

  2. #42
    What's that school that is right in downtown Newport? Those non-locals are probably the ones with the aggro attitude

  3. #43
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    Ya shaarkbate I have to agree with you. I've only been to Ruggles on a couple of mediocre days but the localism wasn't anything out of the ordinary. The Mass plates didn't get my car keyed, but then again I always park in the Breakers parking lot with the tourists. The spot is mint though and deserves to be saved.

    If you go there on a clean overhead day then you have to expect the crowds. There are so many less crowded breaks in southern RI though that it's your own fault if you go there and get hit with a heavy dose of localism.

  4. #44
    Absolute travesty. All because some rich Asshole won't let people access to his property.

    It better not happen!

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post
    Beat me to it.

    Funny thing is, my buddy and I were up there last fall for the Katia swell driving around with NC tags. We were a freaking novelty for most of the guys in the parking lot at Pt. Judith. Didn't really experience any vibe at any of the breaks we surfed and met some really friendly people. There was a lot of "where the hell is that accent from" immediately followed by "hope you're getting some good ones while you're up here."

    Gaff--you wouldn't believe the out of proportion rep Cali has over here!
    Erock the katia swell was epic might have seen you out there. Scored huge at ruggles 10-15 feet and firinggg! probably the best couple days of surf ive ever had!

  6. #46
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    Mclovin- Salve Regina is the college you're referring to. locals are known for giving these kids a hard time and maybe thats where you find a lot of "overblown" localism. i feel that the people who get the harshest dose of localism are the ones who disrupt the so-called "pecking order" of the lineup, and dont show any respect. Localism aside, this IS a premier break on the east coast and NEEDS to be preserved. If you don't believe me, take a look for yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjUzYMOSTU4

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    I dont think localism is the issue here. Ruggles isn't as bad for localism as any spot in the South East. In fact, coming from a crowded beach to Rhode Island you would be surprised at the lack of localsim. Sure ruggles my have more of it then other breaks like ****ies or breachway, but if your catching flack you deserve it.

    This is about saving a wave, for better or for worse so future generations can enjoy it, and deal with their own "localism" issues in the future. To call off helping out a surfing community for localism is hypocritical and cutting off your nose to spite your face. To say "we shouldn't help those guys because they give us bad vibes at their local break" is a worse form of localism then giving someone the stink eye in the line up.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by zaGaffer View Post
    Don't get me wrong, as a Californian/Texan I believe that anything up to the high tide mark should be public domain; but why should he? It's his property, rich or poor, I have the right to privacy and to evict trespassers. If it was a shack on the same acreage, would you feel the same way? What does his net worth have to do with it?

    Slippery slope man.

    One other thing, is it this individual who's screwin everybody over or is it the RIDOT and the City of Newton? I thought it was the last two? Seem to me this guy just doesn't want a public works project in his backyard, can't say that I blame him.
    High tide mark? In Hawaii. NO BEACHES ARE PRIVATE(I know this isn't sand beach, but same idea). This guys has a house in area that is public use area. He should understand that when he purchased ocean front property. How often have they asked this guy for access to his property to repair damage in the last 20 years? I suspect not often. Probably never. If it's the only way they fix the cliffwalk is by going through his property then that is what needs to be done.
    Last edited by shark-hunter; Apr 3, 2013 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shark-hunter View Post
    High tide mark? In Hawaii. NO BEACHES ARE PRIVATE. This guys has a house in area that is public use area. He should understand that when he purchased ocean front property. How often have they asked this guy for access to his property to repair damage in the last 20 years? I suspect not often. Probably never. If it's the only way they fix the cliffwalk is by going through his property then that is what needs to be done.

    technically through the powers of eminent domain, if the state or federal government really wanted they could confiscate his property and give him "fair market value" (never is) for it and start the project in the name of public safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevolution View Post
    technically through the powers of eminent domain, if the state or federal government really wanted they cozuld confiscate his property and give him "fair market value" (never is) for it and start the project in the name of public safety.
    Thankfully eminent domain is not as easy as you make it out to be.