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    Army corps of engineers heading to NJ

    Here's an article from the Washington Post on an Army Corps of Engineers plan to build up the dunes along the New Jersey Shore. It looks like they'll be scouring the bottom of ocean to get the sand. The article makes no mention of how this will affect the sand bars and surf.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...c63_story.html

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    There also coming right to your back yard!
    http://capegazette.villagesoup.com/p...t-beach/973609
    Last edited by South Bethany; Apr 7, 2013 at 01:36 PM.

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    sucks. first ruggles, now nj. looks like im moving to cali

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    " ...modifications are not in the cards. Policy requires the Corps 'to select the optimal plan, and by that I mean the plan that will reduce the most storm damage for the cost.'"

    And THAT'S what's wrong with the whole process... the whole, "business as usual" mindset and approach, who's foundation is built on what's quick, cheap, and and provides the best short term solution. But the problem is not short term, and the solution is not quick or cheap.

    I actually get angry when I read bullsh!t like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    " ...modifications are not in the cards. Policy requires the Corps 'to select the optimal plan, and by that I mean the plan that will reduce the most storm damage for the cost.'"

    And THAT'S what's wrong with the whole process... the whole, "business as usual" mindset and approach, who's foundation is built on what's quick, cheap, and and provides the best short term solution. But the problem is not short term, and the solution is not quick or cheap.

    I actually get angry when I read bullsh!t like this.

    The best way to challenge the science based Army Corp. is to use their "own science" as an alternative as well as economic benefits of surf able beaches in the eyes of local politicians and business community. In the short term play close attention to the size of sand at study sites by the Army Corp., sand is measured in millimeters. So for maintaining ideal surf able sand bars as smaller grain sand packs better is 3mm-5mm while courser sand from 5mm-8mm shifts with long shore currents creating deep drop offs/shore breaks

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    You guys gotta try to fight this. It's happening everywhere, unfortunately you got it first and the worst, now you get stuck with the burden of creating a model and precedence for the rest of the coast dwellers and surf community. From what I gather, they have pretty much given up on Plum Island in MA, so beating these proposals down is not out of the question.

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    At this rate there will be no surf spots left eventually in NJ. Completely absurd and easily avoidable. Also, what beach goer wants to take 2 steps into the water and be over their head?(steep beaches caused by destroying sand bars)

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    You'd be suprised how much could be done to modify the army corps behavior if special interest groups(in this case the surfing community) protest and speak out against this. This is how democracy works. You have to protest/join surf chapters ect.
    It's so easy to NOT destroy and surf break and still replenish the beach.

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    dear shark-hunter, i don't wanna be snarky... but i gotta say i'm surprised that you think we'd be surprised how much can be done to modify the army corps of engineers' behavior. imho, there is absolutely nothing we can do. they, and every other government agency, will do exactly what they want to do, based on rules that rarely have anything to do with surfer stakeholders. the only thing that could theoretically help was engaging an empathetic lawmaker. but when they're not kissing babies, they're snatching their lollipops from them. i can't think of one nj lawmaker that gives a darn about surfers. they do pay a lot of attention to wealthy homeowners and their desire to a) preserve their expensive beachfront properties and b) keep folks like us off their beachfronts. ergo, the army corps of engineers will do exactly the opposite of what we surfers want, and will do what the wealthy homeowners want, which has nothing to do with swimming, but a lot to do with vain snapshots of their handful of midsummer dinner parties with their rich friends. sorry, but this is nj, not orange county rohrabacher country. we're SOL (**** outta luck here in NJ).

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    Artificial reefs are more efficient, less expensive, and create better waves and cleaner water...has anyone ever heard a good rebuttal for this idea? because i haven't.