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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    Sounded like you said armed forces don't care enough (some of them) and could have done something to prevent this... If that was not your intent , I apologize...
    Not my intent at all. I believe that most do care a great deal, but caring and preventing things are two different things. I believe that there is room for improvement, that's all i'm getting at. There are always going to be the possibility of these things happening. But let me ask this question... If The President of the United States (doesn't matter who) was running in that race or was going to be anywhere in the vecinity do you think that this would have happened or do you think they would have scoped the area out a bit more and prevented it? I don't know the answer, but I find it hard to believe they would have let this happen in an area The President is at. My point is, they have the capability to do more. It's just a matter of resources and if they want to invest that much of our Country's resources on every single event like this. Is it worth it? Depends how much you value safety...

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    But let me ask this question... If The President of the United States (doesn't matter who) was running in that race or was going to be anywhere in the vecinity do you think that this would have happened or do you think they would have scoped the area out a bit more and prevented it?
    Wouldnt it be a pretty major intrusion in peoples lives (not to mention pretty expensive and disruptive) if every major event that resulted is a large crowd being in one spot was treated to the same level of security as if the president were actually at the event and in the crowd? In other words, while you COULD do that, I'm not sure we actually want that level of security at every large public event, parade, sporting event, and I dont think it's necessarily a relevent standard to set
    Last edited by South Bethany; Apr 16, 2013 at 01:49 PM.

  3. #33
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/officia...wledge/5331559


    this explains it the best and unbiased.


    all hail OBOMBA

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by South Bethany View Post
    Wouldnt it be a pretty major intrusion in peoples lives (not to mention pretty expensive and disruptive) if every major event that resulted is a large crowd being in one spot was treated to the same level of security as if the president were actually at the event and in the crowd? In other words, while you COULD do that, I'm not sure we actually want that level of security at every large public event, parade, sporting event, and I dont think it's necessarily a relevent standard to set

    liberty > safety

    just ask ben franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by South Bethany View Post
    Wouldnt it be a pretty major intrusion in peoples lives (not to mention pretty expensive and disruptive) if every major event that resulted is a large crowd being in one spot was treated to the same level of security as if the president were actually at the event and in the crowd? In other words, while you COULD do that, I'm not sure we actually want that level of security at every large public event, parade, porting event, and I dont think it's necessarily a relevent standard to set
    I agree, going to that measure every event is a bit extreme but the point is you know it's possible with enough effort. To know that it's possible to prevent it is enough for me to think it's at least worth doing a bit more. Me personally, I don't go to huge gatherings like this EVER, it's too easy of a target. But those who do deserve to feel safe. Is the President's life anymore valuable than those who lost their life yesterday? Some might say so, but I believe that we were all created equal.

  6. #36
    like all terrorist attacks this sucks and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. however, it is important to view these events with logic and skepticism in order to truly get to the bottom of it and find the truth. We can't turn to emotions like after 9/11 and get a buncha reactionary civil liberty limiting legislation like the patriot act and foreign wars. Keep in mind, that terrorist attacks are often used by governments to gain more power, and sometimes they are even behind them in the first place (like ours was proven to be behind the gulf of tonkin that started vietnam as proven by the justice department)

    this is exponentially true when the current administrations ex chief of staff announces the administrations viewpoint on terrorist attacks:

    “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” – Rahm Emanuel, former White House Chief Of Staff to Barack Obama


    keep your eyes open guys, see what reactionary policy passes based on this. Obviously respect and concern for the victims needs to be paramount, but don't let emotions take the place of logic and investigation, or well have another post 9/11 era of wars on nothing

  7. #37
    And exactly what would you propose DawnPatrolSUP? If this is the work of one sick individual, there is little else that could be done to prevent these types of attacks. If it was an international terrorist plot or there were many people involved, then I am wrong and someone failed to do their job.

    Goes political real quick, even in a surf forum. People love to spin things along party lines. Disgusting.

  8. #38
    http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/...port-security/ READ IT

    Security is not good. ^^^^^^ I dont trust anything everythings so shady. I say strip search the towelheads better safe then sorry. Doesnt help that our PRESIDENT has a soft spot for the people who bomb us every few years.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by wontonwonton View Post
    http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/...port-security/ READ IT

    Security is not good. ^^^^^^ I dont trust anything everythings so shady. I say strip search the towelheads better safe then sorry. Doesnt help that our PRESIDENT has a soft spot for the people who bomb us every few years.


    actually according to many eye witnesses there was heightened security at this marathon, in comparison to any other marathon event they have attended. bomb dogs, guys with assault weapons etc.

    plus they arrested a saudi national within 1 hour of the events.

    nice try tho

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    Is the President's life anymore valuable than those who lost their life yesterday? Some might say so, but I believe that we were all created equal.
    No not saying more valuable, but when major political figures attend an event, the event itself becomes much more of a target for terrorism, so the level of security would have to be increased just to maintain a level of safety for everyone involved. Not because the politicians life is more valuable, because the level of risk is actually increased.