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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    Logic please gentlemen.
    Yes logic. I bet you have never even been to the US. Your claims of police states are wildly exaggerated and without context. I am not sure you can make such interesting claims when your only experience with our country is through poorly made YouTube documentaries.

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    On that basis only those who have been to the Moon should have an opinion on Moon landings, and only those who have surfed with me should comment on my surfing ( rather than relying on youtube videos)

    You will no doubt see that your tactic above contradicts those used in many of your previous posts.

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    According to your theory watching the following video will not qualify you to comment on my surfing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    On that basis only those who have been to the Moon should have an opinion on Moon landings, and only those who have surfed with me should comment on my surfing ( rather than relying on youtube videos)

    You will no doubt see that your tactic above contradicts those used in many of your previous posts.

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    Right, awesome comparisons. Just like apples vs oranges.

    You claim we live in a police state, yet your only proof is conspiracy videos made by people that live in a fantasy world headquartered in their mom's basement. You have never been here, so you have no personal experience. Most of the people that do live here think you are full of sh1t and claim to enjoy this free nation. At least if you had visited the country you may have some story that backs up your opinion on our system. Big assumptions with limited data.
    Here is a comparison for you...
    If all I knew about the people of NZ was based on interactions with you on the net, I would think kiwis are all self centered bigots with greed as their only driving force in life. Luckily, I don't make assumptions based on meeting one kiwi on the Internet.
    Maybe just worry about your own police state, since you know so little about our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Yet you can't provide proof. Have you ever been to this country?
    I'm from America and I will say this is a Faciast police state.
    Faciasim is the merger of government and corporations.- Mussolini
    Can't deny that hasn't happened here.
    Our government has committed mass murder. Hiroshima and Nagisaki. Clinton's trade sanctio s on Iraq which resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 children. Madeline Albright can attest to that.cambodia? Shall I go on.

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    Hey guys, I just saw this video about NZ, and now I am pretty sure the whole country is gay.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRpBghF_fkM&sns=em

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    I'm from America and I will say this is a Faciast police state.
    Faciasim is the merger of government and corporations.- Mussolini
    Can't deny that hasn't happened here.
    Our government has committed mass murder. Hiroshima and Nagisaki. Clinton's trade sanctio s on Iraq which resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 children. Madeline Albright can attest to that.cambodia? Shall I go on.
    You are one of they guys I am talking about who believe the wackos like Alex Jones.
    The nuking of Japan was an action taken during war. If you actually knew your history, you would know that carpet bombings killed far more people than the nukes. Before we bombed, we would drop leaflets warning civilians to GTFO, and that was for any bombing where civilians could be. The Japanese didn't return the favor during their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. All the things you mention are during times of war, which is not mass murder as you are claiming. I don't like war at all, but civilian casualties are always going to be a side effect for all sides involved. If you hate this country, there are alternatives. However, I have traveled abroad quite a bit, and I can tell you many places in the world to not enjoy the level of freedom that we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post

    Right, awesome comparisons. Just like apples vs oranges.
    The content is irrelevant, it is the contradictory methods which you advocate and use which I am commenting on.

    Don't you understand that?



    You claim we live in a police state, yet your only proof is conspiracy videos made by people that live in a fantasy world headquartered in their mom's basement.
    Clearly your statement is ridiculously easy to falsify... all I have to do is show one video on the subject which was not made in a basement and your claim is shown to be false.



    Most of the people that do live here think you are full of sh1t

    Please provide evidence to back up this statement.

    I think that it is likely to be false, as it is probable that most people in the USA do not know that I exist.



    you know so little about our country.
    Not having been there themselves does not prevent many US citizens from feeling that they know enough to justify invading other countries and murdering millions of residents of those countries.

    Can you guarantee that you have not posted opinions about countries which you have not visited personally?

    The assumption that going to a country makes one more qualified to comment on the politics there has yet to be established, please proceed to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post

    If you actually knew your history, you would know that carpet bombings killed far more people than the nukes.
    How is that relevant?

    One can't excuse it that way.



    The Japanese didn't return the favor during their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor.
    Pearl harbour was no surprise to the US government.


    All the things you mention are during times of war, which is not mass murder as you are claiming.
    Yes it is, especially when invading other countries on the basis of lies.

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    ... then there are the drone attacks....