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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Only one and only 25 rounds??
    Two 12 round mags loaded and ready, and one in the chamber because guns aren't toys. I don't personally feel the need to stock up. Maybe after I shoot 24 people that will change.

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    Im ready for the monsanto take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Yeah, tell that to WalMart. Maybe they can save a little money too.
    Comparing Walmart to the auto industry is like comparing Apples to Turnips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post
    No surfer should be a conservative. Wow, surfing really has attracted a new breed.

    Anywayswho, republicans are phony, hypocrits who fall into three categories:
    Those are some pretty bold statements. I would say that most surfers "think they need to be democrats" but in reality, local or national politics have nothing to do with ones passion or hobby. Right or left, neither have anything to do with surfing. And just because Al Gore is pushing global warming initiatives doesnt mean he is going to save your local beach when its on the chopping block one way or the other... And just because the right wing pushes guns and money, doesn't mean they are going to destroy your local break....

    In the grand scheme of things, I would say what does Right or Left have to do with the price of tea in China with regards to surfing?

    I would say you don't need to be a tree hugger to be a surfer...

    You can slang junk stocks by day, get pitted in quadruple over head jersey slabs in the evening, and bang Hindus all night long. Its the american way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Comparing Walmart to the auto industry is like comparing Apples to Turnips.
    You've missed the point altogether. Do you think all the auto plants shutting down along with the mom and pop stores is an accident? If you looked into this gov's trade policies you would understand. Last time I called my Internet provider I got some guy in India. You talk about maximizing profits and competitive markets. Do you think a Cadillac in China will have lower sticker price than the USA? Do you think if GM made less profit by building here and shipping to China would hurt their exec's lifestyle any? You have missed the point. You have failed to understand gov's role in this. Take the time to learn to learn about the North American Trade Agreement and and the General Agreement on Trades And Tariffs and you will understand why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Comparing Walmart to the auto industry is like comparing Apples to Turnips.
    Its no accident that almost everything on store shelves was made overseas . You are probably too you to remember when America produced most of its goods and people were proud honest hard workers. It's what made this country so prosperous and great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    You've missed the point altogether. Do you think all the auto plants shutting down along with the mom and pop stores is an accident? If you looked into this gov's trade policies you would understand. Last time I called my Internet provider I got some guy in India. You talk about maximizing profits and competitive markets. Do you think a Cadillac in China will have lower sticker price than the USA? Do you think if GM made less profit by building here and shipping to China would hurt their exec's lifestyle any? You have missed the point. You have failed to understand gov's role in this. Take the time to learn to learn about the North American Trade Agreement and and the General Agreement on Trades And Tariffs and you will understand why.
    You may want to actually research a little better. Plants aren't shutting down in the automotive industry. There haven't even been many cut backs since 2009. Again, you know very little about the industry if you think GM could compete in China while importing from the US. This is the capitalistic society the people like Roy want. Rich are getting richer by using the free market. Every auto manufacturer does it. But hey, what do I know. I have only worked in the automotive industry for the last decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You may want to actually research a little better. Plants aren't shutting down in the automotive industry. There haven't even been many cut backs since 2009. Again, you know very little about the industry if you think GM could compete in China while importing from the US. This is the capitalistic society the people like Roy want. Rich are getting richer by using the free market. Every auto manufacturer does it. But hey, what do I know. I have only worked in the automotive industry for the last decade.
    You say cutbacks since 2009. NAFTA was singned in 1994. Tell me than what happened in Detroit? Cuz what your saying no auto plants have been shut down there. I guess the auto plant in Linden NJ didnt shut down either and that my buddy that worked there for 25 years still has a job.Besides you are avoiding how this conjecture started in the first place. Things are not better in this country compared to 30 years ago. The # of people on food stamps has quadrupled in 10 years. You've only been in the auto industry for 10 years. What about before that. I don't care how Roy makes his money and if it's the free market, than tell me how it became free. Tell me if it benefits the child slave labor. Tell me where all the stuff in WalMart and Target come from. Tell me how the free market creates jobs in this country for the average American. Manufacturing jobs. Not minimum wage service jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You may want to actually research a little better. Plants aren't shutting down in the automotive industry. There haven't even been many cut backs since 2009. Again, you know very little about the industry if you think GM could compete in China while importing from the US. This is the capitalistic society the people like Roy want. Rich are getting richer by using the free market. Every auto manufacturer does it. But hey, what do I know. I have only worked in the automotive industry for the last decade.
    Just because you've worked in the auto industry for the past 10 years, doesn't mean you know that Americas economy is good. If you look into the trade laws I've mentioned and learned a little about how this country became so prosperous and why it is a sad shadow of its former self, you would understand where I'm coming from. Stop attacking what I say and take a step back and look into things. I'm only talking here so that maybe you will become enlighted. Just because things are good in your world doesn't mean there aren't many out there that are suffering from the free market brought on by NAFTA and GATT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    You say cutbacks since 2009. NAFTA was singned in 1994. Tell me than what happened in Detroit? Cuz what your saying no auto plants have been shut down there. I guess the auto plant in Linden NJ didnt shut down either and that my buddy that worked there for 25 years still has a job.Besides you are avoiding how this conjecture started in the first place. Things are not better in this country compared to 30 years ago. The # of people on food stamps has quadrupled in 10 years. You've only been in the auto industry for 10 years. What about before that. I don't care how Roy makes his money and if it's the free market, than tell me how it became free. Tell me if it benefits the child slave labor. Tell me where all the stuff in WalMart and Target come from. Tell me how the free market creates jobs in this country for the average American. Manufacturing jobs. Not minimum wage service jobs.
    I have to correct myself, it's not the free market but the deregulated global trade market. making it free not fair.