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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    listen dude, you can choose to be ignorant to the truth, but your ignorance will not protect you from the truth.
    my source for the Bush-Obama indictment is from the New York Times!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/wo...anted=all&_r=0
    Hey yo, I just scanned this article and I didn't see anything aboot any indictment. Being indicted means you a going to a court. There was a "review" of these politicians...

    And I'm not ignorant. OH GOD, why am I ignorant? What does war crimes and torture have to do with anything? I support "war crimes"(it's a war !!) and torture of enemy combatants(those sob's would torture YOU). Yeah, I'm a strange kind of liberal......a different breed.

    Hey all y'all who are terrified of the governement: What are y'all doing aboot it? Debating it on surfin' forum isn't going to stop them from a gettin' ya. Really, what do you think the government is going to do to you? How has the Patriot Act directly affected your lives? And you'll see plenty of signs of a New World Order order coming. When that happens I'll join you. C'mon all y'all don't ever let that happen. Here's a big tip: Never let them take physical cash away. Always have tangible money.

    Hey do y'all who fear the government use cell phones and other tech gadgets? Well, you're playing into the guvment's hand. They are tracking YOU. Watching you and listening to you. Plus, this technology will play into the new world order so we need to abandon it(actually that would be fine by me - technology is going to end up destroying us someday)

    You know what, I'm a little groggy this morning and I don't even remember what the point is of all of this. Hey, have the numerous terror plots that have been foiled part of a FBI conspiracy. How aboot that dude who shot up his military base(FT Hood ??) was that an FBI ploy?

    Wouldn't 9/11 have been a better opportunity to establish martial law and such? I mean sorry Boston and all, but in actuality, for an example, more people were killed in Philly during the bombing week. It really wasn't a deadly attack. So what does the government hope to achieve by this? The only people really still talking aboot it are Boston types, runners, and....and dudes on a surf predicting site. If this was a guvment conspiracy I think it would have been a bit larger on scale.

    Ok you dudes are alright. You sucked me back into politics after a month of abstinence, but oh well. This is much better than some dude asking about what wetsuit coverage to wear.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post
    Hey yo, I just scanned this article and I didn't see anything aboot any indictment. Being indicted means you a going to a court. There was a "review" of these politicians...

    And I'm not ignorant. OH GOD, why am I ignorant? What does war crimes and torture have to do with anything? I support "war crimes"(it's a war !!) and torture of enemy combatants(those sob's would torture YOU). Yeah, I'm a strange kind of liberal......a different breed.

    Hey all y'all who are terrified of the governement: What are y'all doing aboot it? Debating it on surfin' forum isn't going to stop them from a gettin' ya. Really, what do you think the government is going to do to you? How has the Patriot Act directly affected your lives? And you'll see plenty of signs of a New World Order order coming. When that happens I'll join you. C'mon all y'all don't ever let that happen. Here's a big tip: Never let them take physical cash away. Always have tangible money.

    Hey do y'all who fear the government use cell phones and other tech gadgets? Well, you're playing into the guvment's hand. They are tracking YOU. Watching you and listening to you. Plus, this technology will play into the new world order so we need to abandon it(actually that would be fine by me - technology is going to end up destroying us someday)

    You know what, I'm a little groggy this morning and I don't even remember what the point is of all of this. Hey, have the numerous terror plots that have been foiled part of a FBI conspiracy. How aboot that dude who shot up his military base(FT Hood ??) was that an FBI ploy?

    Wouldn't 9/11 have been a better opportunity to establish martial law and such? I mean sorry Boston and all, but in actuality, for an example, more people were killed in Philly during the bombing week. It really wasn't a deadly attack. So what does the government hope to achieve by this? The only people really still talking aboot it are Boston types, runners, and....and dudes on a surf predicting site. If this was a guvment conspiracy I think it would have been a bit larger on scale.

    Ok you dudes are alright. You sucked me back into politics after a month of abstinence, but oh well. This is much better than some dude asking about what wetsuit coverage to wear.......
    your right man, debating on a surf forum wont change anything, and definitely wont change each others opinions, but at least were talking about these issues. I guess the only way to find out what the real outcome of all this is to wait until 2050 when they start airing all these undercover secrets on the history channel. Ill be a crotchety old man that surfs once a day, and spends the rest of it watching those history channel specials with a pbr between my legs and a big blunt of mids in my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevolution View Post
    your right man, debating on a surf forum wont change anything, and definitely wont change each others opinions, but at least were talking about these issues. I guess the only way to find out what the real outcome of all this is to wait until 2050 when they start airing all these undercover secrets on the history channel. Ill be a crotchety old man that surfs once a day, and spends the rest of it watching those history channel specials with a pbr between my legs and a big blunt of mids in my mouth.
    You kidding? The history channel contains almost no history now. By 2050, it will just be another place to play reruns of honey boo boo.

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    Trevolution, you think the economy was great after 9/11? I disagree. It cost insurance companies 40 billion. It hurt airtravel. It crushed tourism. Stock markets fell. The dollar was devalued. Major financial institutions, whose corporate headquaters were in the Towers, were crippled. Oil prices went up(bad for Ma & Pa Kettle; good for Mobile/Exxon). The Fed Reserve had to add liquidity into the economy immdeiately after the attack to avoid a major financial crisis. All sorts of bad things happened. I've never heard of the great economic uprisings surrounding Y2K and Dec 21, 2012.

    Looky here if martial law(hey man, did you guys just read 1984 in the past weeks or something?) existed, I'm fairly certain that big business wouldn't be providing those $50,000 - $250,000 corporate jobs. Why would they? In partnership with the politicians that they own, most jobs would start paying almost nothing. What would be the point of martial law if the current employment opportunities still existed?? Ok, we're installing martial law but don't worry your $100,000/year job with Initech is safe? It is my opinion that a police state would be bad for corporate America.

    Oh yeah, here's a question, not so much for you TREV, but the others. Why does the government want to install martial law? What's their motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevolution View Post
    Ill be a crotchety old man that surfs once a day, and spends the rest of it watching those history channel specials with a pbr between my legs and a big blunt of mids in my mouth.
    C'mon, man get with the times...it's kine nugs; blunts are for the homies and wannabes...vaporize, son.

    It's mush easier on your constitution, brahh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiloSurfer View Post
    Really, picture's don't lie? And you're telling other people to "wake up", pretty funny...

    Attachment 7585Attachment 7586

    AJ is yet another whack-job, making money off of "the sheep on the other end of the spectrum" as trev so wisely pointed out.
    I linked to inforwars' articles because they gave eyewitness accounts and a comprehensive photos a videos of what happened during the Boston lock down(martial law). there was nothing biased about those reports.

    but whatever. i'm wrong for listening to him. you're right.

    DHS hasn't bought 2.2 billion bullets and 1000's of armored vehicles.
    Janet Napalotano has our best interest as well as Mark Holder. they would never lie to us.
    i'm wrong.
    its a conspiracy theory that the US has the highest prison population in the world.
    its a conspiracy theory that they put fluoride in our tap water.
    i'm wrong your right.
    radiation from Fukishima is not polluting the Pacific ocean.
    GMO'S are good for you and the environment.
    childhood leukemia hasn't gone from 1in 25,000 to 1 in 1000.
    the Bilderburg group does not exist.
    its a conspiracy theory that Autism has gone from1 in 5000 to 1 in 50.
    it's a conspiracy theory that the big banks do not control the worlds monetary system.
    the Federal Reserve doesn't exist.
    its a conspiracy theory that vaccines contain Mercury and Formaldehyde.
    your right i'm wrong.
    the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act are conspiracy theories too.
    The Fed isn't pumping out 85 billion dollars of fiat currency a month thus delating the value of the dollar.
    its a conspiracy theory that Obama wants to disarm US civilians.
    its a conspiracy theory that ObamaCare is a law.

    Alex Jones' method of informing people to wake them up may be brazen, but at least he is providing information that is essential to help people fight against the tyranny we live under. sure he's making money.but at least he gets his money from companies that sell products to empower people and make them independent. there are no commercials on his show pushing products from the big pharmaceutical companies and big banks. he is promoting self sufficiency so we are not dependent on government that are trying to enslave us.
    you can take or leave his style of journalism, but he's not the only one with the same ideas.
    Matt Drudge, Gerald Celente,and Adam Kokesh are just a few who understand the power structure and the plan to bankrupt America to make us dependent on the government for our God given rights to natural resources.

    but im wrong, your right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9Ds...lcIZry0S2sboHA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSdRN...lcIZry0S2sboHA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgXd...lcIZry0S2sboHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post
    Hey yo, I just scanned this article and I didn't see anything aboot any indictment. Being indicted means you a going to a court. There was a "review" of these politicians...

    And I'm not ignorant. OH GOD, why am I ignorant? What does war crimes and torture have to do with anything? I support "war crimes"(it's a war !!) and torture of enemy combatants(those sob's would torture YOU). Yeah, I'm a strange kind of liberal......a different breed.

    Hey all y'all who are terrified of the governement: What are y'all doing aboot it? Debating it on surfin' forum isn't going to stop them from a gettin' ya. Really, what do you think the government is going to do to you? How has the Patriot Act directly affected your lives? And you'll see plenty of signs of a New World Order order coming. When that happens I'll join you. C'mon all y'all don't ever let that happen. Here's a big tip: Never let them take physical cash away. Always have tangible money.

    Hey do y'all who fear the government use cell phones and other tech gadgets? Well, you're playing into the guvment's hand. They are tracking YOU. Watching you and listening to you. Plus, this technology will play into the new world order so we need to abandon it(actually that would be fine by me - technology is going to end up destroying us someday)

    You know what, I'm a little groggy this morning and I don't even remember what the point is of all of this. Hey, have the numerous terror plots that have been foiled part of a FBI conspiracy. How aboot that dude who shot up his military base(FT Hood ??) was that an FBI ploy?

    Wouldn't 9/11 have been a better opportunity to establish martial law and such? I mean sorry Boston and all, but in actuality, for an example, more people were killed in Philly during the bombing week. It really wasn't a deadly attack. So what does the government hope to achieve by this? The only people really still talking aboot it are Boston types, runners, and....and dudes on a surf predicting site. If this was a guvment conspiracy I think it would have been a bit larger on scale.

    Ok you dudes are alright. You sucked me back into politics after a month of abstinence, but oh well. This is much better than some dude asking about what wetsuit coverage to wear.......
    9/11 would have been a good opportunity to impose Martial Law but the DHS was not formed yet. 9/11 gave us The Patriot Act, and the TSA.
    Bush and Chenney were indicted after the invasion of Iraq for war crimes by the International Court of Justice.
    Nothing ever came of it. Our system is corrupt.

    here's another credible source of the Bush Obama indictment. If you don't think his opinion holds weight check his bio.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

    http://beforeitsnews.com/war-on-terr...=7du35fa3ie8b8

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    Ok that's alot of stuff right there.

    So, I'll just point oot a few..

    How is Obama trying to disarm America? Shucks, before Sandy Hook he passed PRO gun laws. Yes, because of Obama you gun dudes can bring your 9's to National parks and Federal lands. He passed some other pro gun law too, but I forget what it was. He passed NO anti-gun laws. Still hasn't. Dude, America is saturated with guns. They aren't going anywhere.

    Our prison population is all about our drug laws. Drugs(well certain ones) have been illegal for some time now. I don't see any tanks or troops on my block.

    Fluoride is good for our teeth. Don't forget aspartame in our foods. Innoculations are tainted, right? So, life spans have increased in modern times and people have been getting vacinated for awhile.....so........?

    Again, I ax, how has The Patriot Act interfered with your life?

    Obamacare? Dude, every other first world nation provides healthcare for their citizens. I don't know any Canadians who are afraid of their guvment declaring martial law.

    The oceans have been polluted for years...Argghh should have been around Jersey in the mid 80's. Yuck. How is that part of some government conspiracy. " We'll kill the marine life and then be free to impose our will on humankind" ??

    If there is some government influence on the rising rates of certain health ailments well that's more likely the Pharm industry trying to sell more pills.

    Are you really that fearful of the government? You know that people have been saying things like this for 200 hundred years.

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    No, everything you posted is not wrong (some are very misleading or incorrect), but thinking they are a conspiracy is.
    Here is a good example: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/new...04-th-vaccines

    Some of us actually live by the scientific method, and we find many of the claims by sites like AJ to be completely ignorant. It should also be interesting that almost no reputable scientist or medical professional backs the claims made by many conspiracy sites. I am not saying we should trust the government in every action they take. I am saying we should listen to educated professionals over some tin foil hat sites where the collective IQ doesn't crest 100. I have very close friends that work with infectious diseases in order to create vaccines and medicines. If anything, the government holds them back. No conspiracies, just lots of cash required for FDA approval.
    As for autism, it doesn't take a college degree to realize the increase in numbers is easily traced back to advancements in screening, along with occasional overdiagnosis. Same goes for ADHD and ADD. Back 50+ years ago, children with mild autism were just labeled as slow learners or stubborn. Kids with ADHD were just trouble or bad seeds. Now that we know what these diseases entail, we can trace them to a set of behaviors and test accordingly. Think of how many people died from cancer before they knew what it was. There is also a big issue of overdiagnosis, which seems to spawn from poor medical training. Some doctors just want to pass out medicine, and that drives up the numbers. But feel free to fear science. Maybe you would prefer some faith healing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post
    Ok that's alot of stuff right there.

    So, I'll just point oot a few..

    How is Obama trying to disarm America? Shucks, before Sandy Hook he passed PRO gun laws. Yes, because of Obama you gun dudes can bring your 9's to National parks and Federal lands. He passed some other pro gun law too, but I forget what it was. He passed NO anti-gun laws. Still hasn't. Dude, America is saturated with guns. They aren't going anywhere.

    Our prison population is all about our drug laws. Drugs(well certain ones) have been illegal for some time now. I don't see any tanks or troops on my block.

    Fluoride is good for our teeth. Don't forget aspartame in our foods. Innoculations are tainted, right? So, life spans have increased in modern times and people have been getting vacinated for awhile.....so........?

    Again, I ax, how has The Patriot Act interfered with your life?

    Obamacare? Dude, every other first world nation provides healthcare for their citizens. I don't know any Canadians who are afraid of their guvment declaring martial law.

    The oceans have been polluted for years...Argghh should have been around Jersey in the mid 80's. Yuck. How is that part of some government conspiracy. " We'll kill the marine life and then be free to impose our will on humankind" ??

    If there is some government influence on the rising rates of certain health ailments well that's more likely the Pharm industry trying to sell more pills.

    Are you really that fearful of the government? You know that people have been saying things like this for 200 hundred years.
    There are real ocean pollution issues and no conspiracy involved. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0501145118.htm
    The conspiracy sites refuse to work with real scientific news. That just isn't interesting enough for them.
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