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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Never looked into it, but I do know the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag operation to lead us into the Vietnam War. Operation Northwoods? Look it up.
    well duh. but you know what is more telling about that op? It got leaked!!! Govt is totally incapable of keeping secrets but some of these kooky conspiracy theories have that as their central component.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Oh, you have a good one there. I am going to post that on Alex Jones!

    BTW, I always dislike comparisons between Hitler and Obama, as archy may have been implying. This is a popular one that is incorrectly thrown around: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/disarm.asp
    Hitler only wanted to disarm the non-Aryan world, and actually loosened the gun laws for natural born Germans.
    Hahaha, yeah and Hitler also made the natural born Germans register their gunS nitwad.

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    Aboot air travel.......

    The man didn't hassle you much before 9/11, right? So can you understand why you might get patted down after the incident in 2001? There's a connection there. I have only flown to Canada a couple of times since then, but it wasn't any problem. Plus, the man isn't forcing you to fly. If getting patted down for your safety and those around you is a problem then don't fly. Take a train like NJ TRANSIT or a boat. NJ Transit....the bus, the train, the way to go.

    AND YOU KNOW WHAT, all of these dudes who are complaining aboot the martial law in Boston, would be scared to death if some dudes where running around their town bent on destruction. They'd be pleading for the cops to protect them...........welcoming them to search their homes.

    And yeah Zach, those "IN HOUSE" restrictions wouldn't even be headed in Baltimore, Philly, or New York. Shucks, probably 70% of Philly residents wouldn't have even know a bomb went off downtown. Nobody in those neighborhoods would have stayed in their homes. Boston is a tamer animal...a more refined locale.

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    Oh please anyone who remotely compares Obama to Hitler should go back to kindergarten and start all over....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post
    Aboot air travel.......

    The man didn't hassle you much before 9/11, right? So can you understand why you might get patted down after the incident in 2001? There's a connection there. I have only flown to Canada a couple of times since then, but it wasn't any problem. Plus, the man isn't forcing you to fly. If getting patted down for your safety and those around you is a problem then don't fly. Take a train like NJ TRANSIT or a boat. NJ Transit....the bus, the train, the way to go.
    I have flown twice in the past 6 months and neither time was I ever searched or patted down, nothing more than putting my stuff in a bucket to get screened and walking through the metal detector, that's it. I think I can deal with taking my shoes off for 30 seconds and then putting them back on, i'll live. Also, I didn't even witness anybody getting searched either. So things are as bad as some may claim, at least not everywhere.

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    You mean they are going to kill 6,000,000 of our Jews?!?! That's terrible!
    Thanks for the Lesson...

    Here's a little history lesson for you... A couple of weeks ago 2 young brothers blew up bombs at the Boston Marathon. A manhunt ensued, 1 got killed and they caught the other in a boat.

    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Hey NYNJ! A little history lesson for you.
    Hitler burned down his own parliament building and blamed it on Poland.
    After that he started creating laws close to our Patriot Act and NDAA, and convinced his people that it was to protect them from Communist threats.

    IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR HISTORY YOU ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Hahaha, yeah and Hitler also made the natural born Germans register their gunS nitwad.
    "The 1938 law is best known for barring Jews from owning weapons, after which the Nazis confiscated guns from Jewish homes. But Harcourt points out that Hitler's gun law otherwise completely deregulated acquisition of rifles, long guns and ammunition. It exempted many groups from requiring permits. The law lowered the age for legal gun ownership from 20 to 18. And it extended the validity of gun permits from one year to three years.

    "To suggest that the targeting of Jews in any of the gun regulations or any of the other regulations is somehow tied to Nazis' view of guns is entirely misleading," Harcourt said, "because the Nazis believed in a greater deregulation of firearms. Firearms were viewed, for the good German, were something to which they had rights.""


    And my favorite: "Ideologues always try to shoehorn history into their own categories and read into the past things that serve their own particular purposes,"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    I have flown twice in the past 6 months and neither time was I ever searched or patted down, nothing more than putting my stuff in a bucket to get screened and walking through the metal detector, that's it. I think I can deal with taking my shoes off for 30 seconds and then putting them back on, i'll live. Also, I didn't even witness anybody getting searched either. So things are as bad as some may claim, at least not everywhere.
    Yeah, I didn't get searched either. Biggest hassle was taking of my shoes. Wow, big deal. Maybe these guys on here who are complaining are of Middle Eastern descent? I don't know. The biggest problem with air travel is trying to keep your drinking in-check.

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    AND YOU KNOW WHAT, all of these dudes who are complaining aboot the martial law in Boston, would be scared to death if some dudes where running around their town bent on destruction. They'd be pleading for the cops to protect them...........welcoming them to search their homes.
    doubtful..and obama is more like Stalin or Mao than Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    I have flown twice in the past 6 months and neither time was I ever searched or patted down, nothing more than putting my stuff in a bucket to get screened and walking through the metal detector, that's it. I think I can deal with taking my shoes off for 30 seconds and then putting them back on, i'll live. Also, I didn't even witness anybody getting searched either. So things are as bad as some may claim, at least not everywhere.
    I flew 2-4 times a week from 2006 to 2009, and never once had a bad experience with airport security. I probably only got a pat down one time, and that was because my shoes had diesel residue on them (I do a lot of diesel engine development).