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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    The content is irrelevant, it is the contradictory methods which you advocate and use which I am commenting on.

    Don't you understand that?



    Clearly your statement is ridiculously easy to falsify... all I have to do is show one video on the subject which was not made in a basement and your claim is shown to be false.



    Please provide evidence to back up this statement.

    I think that it is likely to be false, as it is probable that most people in the USA do not know that I exist.




    Not having been there themselves does not prevent many US citizens from feeling that they know enough to justify invading other countries and murdering millions of residents of those countries.

    Can you guarantee that you have not posted opinions about countries which you have not visited personally?

    The assumption that going to a country makes one more qualified to comment on the politics there has yet to be established, please proceed to do so.
    I honestly think we are running into the Roy ego situatuation where valid points are brought up, yet obviously wrong since they are counter to your arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    How is that relevant?

    One can't excuse it that way.




    Pearl harbour was no surprise to the US government.



    Yes it is, especially when invading other countries on the basis of lies.

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    More conspiracy bullsh1t. I am done here. I don't feel like wasting my time arguing with the worlds biggest conspiracy troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    I'm from America and I will say this is a Faciast police state.
    Faciasim is the merger of government and corporations.- Mussolini
    Can't deny that hasn't happened here.
    Our government has committed mass murder. Hiroshima and Nagisaki. Clinton's trade sanctio s on Iraq which resulted in the deaths of over 500,000 children. Madeline Albright can attest to that.cambodia? Shall I go on.

    Wow, Arch. Sounds like you should leave and apply for Asylum in New Zealand. I'm sure Roy Boi would sponsor you!

    Here's a website to get your journey started: http://www.refugeehealth.govt.nz/aboutus/refugeenz.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    I honestly think we are running into the Roy ego situatuation where valid points are brought up, yet obviously wrong since they are counter to your arguments.
    Personal attacks are no substitute for addressing the arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiloSurfer View Post
    Wow, Arch. Sounds like you should leave and apply for Asylum in New Zealand. I'm sure Roy Boi would sponsor you!

    Here's a website to get your journey started: http://www.refugeehealth.govt.nz/aboutus/refugeenz.asp

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    Some choose to leave, some choose to stay and fight it out.

    NZ is not immune to these issues either, we recently passed laws which were identical to ones passed in the US under pressure from the head of Homeland Security and the IMF under Agenda 21.

    In any case, Americans are welcome here as far as I am concerned. I see that Harvard University is investing in NZ farmland at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You are one of they guys I am talking about who believe the wackos like Alex Jones.
    The nuking of Japan was an action taken during war. If you actually knew your history, you would know that carpet bombings killed far more people than the nukes. Before we bombed, we would drop leaflets warning civilians to GTFO, and that was for any bombing where civilians could be. The Japanese didn't return the favor during their surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. All the things you mention are during times of war, which is not mass murder as you are claiming. I don't like war at all, but civilian casualties are always going to be a side effect for all sides involved. If you hate this country, there are alternatives. However, I have traveled abroad quite a bit, and I can tell you many places in the world to not enjoy the level of freedom that we do.
    Clinton's sanction on Iraq was not during a time of war.

    oh yeah concerning your faith in the American motor companies getting stronger in this country, well read em and weephttp://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2013/05/07/general-motors-to-build-cadillac-plant-in-china/

    wall street journal and yeah I heard about this from alex jones so it must be a conspiracy theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    Some choose to leave, some choose to stay and fight it out.

    NZ is not immune to these issues either, we recently passed laws which were identical to ones passed in the US under pressure from the head of Homeland Security and the IMF under Agenda 21.

    In any case, Americans are welcome here as far as I am concerned. I see that Harvard University is investing in NZ farmland at present.

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    here ya roy, ive seen people loose homes that have been in family for generations bc of eminent domain all to build a smart community. agenda 21 must be stopped! I currently cant leave and have no choice but to fight.just sad to see people on this blog attack statements made with ignorant rhetoric. it's the reason why the NWO has gotten away with so much. to much football mentality consuming our civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiloSurfer View Post
    Wow, Arch. Sounds like you should leave and apply for Asylum in New Zealand. I'm sure Roy Boi would sponsor you!

    Here's a website to get your journey started: http://www.refugeehealth.govt.nz/aboutus/refugeenz.asp

    You're Welcome!
    your football mentality is ignorant rhetoric. if you took the time to look into the statements made you might learn why the department of homeland security has purchased 2.2 billion rounds of ammo and 7000 armored vehicles in the last 18 months. that's enough for a 25 year Iraqi war.your dismissal of important info and refusal to look into these issues will bite you in the ass unless people who are awake and aware. its no mistake that people on food stamps has gone from 10 million to 49 million in 10 years. you must realize our gov doesn't give a crap about us.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

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    Yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Clinton's sanction on Iraq was not during a time of war.

    oh yeah concerning your faith in the American motor companies getting stronger in this country, well read em and weephttp://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2013/05/07/general-motors-to-build-cadillac-plant-in-china/

    wall street journal and yeah I heard about this from alex jones so it must be a conspiracy theory
    Are you that clueless?

    "SHANGHAI—General Motors Co. said it has received permission from Chinese authorities to build an 8 billion yuan ($1.3 billion) plant to manufacture its Cadillac brand, boosting the U.S. auto maker’s ambition of becoming a larger player in China’s booming luxury car market."

    If you are selling cars in china, it is only going to be competitive if you manufacture there. Would you prefer they fail in that market due to higher costs for importing and manufacturing. Every manufacturer does this. That is why Honda and Toyota are manufactured in North America for our market. I currently work for the Germans, and we develope products here that will be used and sold here. Local for local is good business. Manufacture in the same place you sell. I have always been a critic of GM's business decisions, but this one makes sense. They will still have the same amount of work here in the US. I guess you hate ford too, as they manufacture in Europe for the European market. If you are going to criticize US companies, at least find something worth reading.