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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post

    Roy, Climate by it's very nature is in constant flux and change. Now, you can argue the cause ad nauseum, but you can't deny that climate has, does and will continue to change over time. It did before humans, it does now and it will surely continue to after our species is long gone.
    Of course, where did I say otherwise?


    To lump the two separate debates together as you did creates a blatant logical fallacy..... but that's pretty much par for the course for you, so I'm not all that surprised.
    I didn't lump any two debates together ( you made that up yourself) so your argument above is a classic 'straw man' fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    Of course, where did I say otherwise?



    I didn't lump any two debates together ( you made that up yourself) so your argument above is a classic 'straw man' fallacy.

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    You must have already forgotten the part where you accused brewengineer of brewing kool-aid for just mentioning the generic term "climate change."

    You've obviously been drinking something much, much more potent than kool-aid.
    Last edited by Erock; May 14, 2013 at 02:00 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Stuart View Post
    But you are a buffoon, and your climate change cliche IS a conspiracy theory.
    Anyone that denies climate change is in no position to call anyone a buffoon. We can argue all day about causes, but it is happening. I guess the entire world must be part of that conspiracy....

    http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-ne...na_848295.html
    http://www.globalchange.umd.edu/
    http://globalchange.mit.edu/
    http://eprints.uni-kiel.de/1292/1/BAMS-88-9-1383.pdf

    Oh, I forgot, you don't care about research or scientific studies. Those links are just what can be found on the first page of google. If you search scientific journals, you will see 100's of well written papers on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post
    You must have already forgotten the part where you accused brewengineer of brewing kool-aid for just mentioning the generic term "climate change."

    You've obviously been drinking something much, much more potent than kool-aid.
    You will never win with him. He has a mental disability and can never be wrong.
    This is just funny: "But you are a buffoon, and your climate change cliche IS a conspiracy theory."

    My climate change cliche? All I said is that it was happening and it effects the bee diversity.

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    you guys sound pretty smart.i dont have the vocabulary skills to partake in this discussion.monsanto is evil,watch food inc.food shouldnt be fudkd with.bees are nearly extinct.bill gates runs the gates of hell foundation that gives vaccines to 3rd world countries in africa,then a month later some new desiease is found out there.my my my what on earth must we do

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    Quote Originally Posted by cepriano View Post
    you guys sound pretty smart.i dont have the vocabulary skills to partake in this discussion.monsanto is evil,watch food inc.food shouldnt be fudkd with.bees are nearly extinct.bill gates runs the gates of hell foundation that gives vaccines to 3rd world countries in africa,then a month later some new desiease is found out there.my my my what on earth must we do
    I concur. Bill Gates is an Antichrist. Pushing his vaccines to depopulate the earth. F**n power hungry eugenics scum.

    Also let's not forget that other than reasons givin about bee depopulation, GMO's are a major contributor, and GMO's are probably the worst environmental threat we have today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    I concur. Bill Gates is an Antichrist. Pushing his vaccines to depopulate the earth. F**n power hungry eugenics scum.

    Also let's not forget that other than reasons givin about bee depopulation, GMO's are a major contributor, and GMO's are probably the worst environmental threat we have today.
    Some GMO is designed to kill insects, but I would say new insecticides like neonics are probably more problematic for hives.
    http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...e-bees-studies

    A lot of stuff is working against the poor bees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mushdoc View Post
    Monsanto= everything that is evil in this world.
    I concur 100 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Some GMO is designed to kill insects, but I would say new insecticides like neonics are probably more problematic for hives.
    http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...e-bees-studies

    A lot of stuff is working against the poor bees.
    Yeah it's pretty f**ked. What's worse is that what is working against the bees is also working against the human race and the entire planet's fragile ecosystems.

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    Monsanto is now moving to stop individual states from choosing to label GMO foods.
    Help by signing petition.
    http://www.change.org/petitions/stop...od-by-monsanto