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  1. #1

    ACOE gonna bury us in

    The shore is not open....it looks worse than ever to begin a summer...sure some staples are "open" but most towns still look jacked up and smell like mold. It ain't gonna be a great summer to pack the kids in the car and spend $10 to park and $8 each to get on the beach to use port a potties and have your kids play if sand that has god knows what in it. Plus the sound of constructions will be fresh in the air. Watching someone rebuild there life while you are trying to get your surf on changes your vibe real quick.

    I understand we need to protect infrastructure, however a big sand dump could make things worse. $100 mil in contracts means a lot of money floating around for groups to "get work done quick."

    How does making the beach wider (think wildwood) stop the ocean when its a full lunar high tide of around 8 feet mixed with a ten foot storm surge. The ocean will just go over the new wider beach quite easy I would assume.

    At some level we need dunes...big dunes that block the ocean...think 50 foot dunes...but don't touch the shoreline at all....but prob block the homeowners viewed effectively lower property values....necessary evil at this point

    Since Sandy most beaches are breaking much further out like it naturally would if we didn't dump a bunch of sand near the water's edge to create the dangerous shorebreak. This means the waves lose their power farther out and don't hit the shorebreak with such great force. This is how the ACOE wants the beach to "eventually be"....a nice gradual slope....THAT'S HOW THE BEACH IS NOW SO WHY NOT LEAVE IT....LET THE JETTIES YOU INSTALLED DO THEIR JOB....BUILD SOME DUNES...RUIN SOME VIEWS...DO THE RIGHT THING....ONLY SURFERS AND FISHERMAN GET THIS **** SO WE PROB GOTTA GET OFF OUR ASSES NOW.

    NEXT YEAR PREDICTION....I will driving more to south jersey to take my family to a beach we can actually enjoy and not have to walk a mile to the water and dodge the dangerous non surfable shorebreak which will inevitably be created...

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    Perhaps The Prince could pitch in & help.

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    The fish are in... the surf's been good... everything from the MHW line out is in it's natural state.

    But turn around and look landward. It's a bizarre scene. Nothing is normal... nothing is natural. Many people still have not gotten back into their homes and businesses, while across the street, palaces rise out of the dunes in a matter of weeks for the wealthy private beach clubbers, who will relax in their cabanas while ignoring the horror of the broken lives around them like they aren't there, and don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Many people still have not gotten back into their homes and businesses, while across the street, palaces rise out of the dunes in a matter of weeks for the wealthy private beach clubbers, who will relax in their cabanas while ignoring the horror of the broken lives around them like they aren't there, and don't matter.
    My thoughts exactly. I've overheard many people voicing their concerns over whether their precious beach club will be open in time for memorial day... meanwhile across the street someones condo where they live full time still sits in ruins. And the beach club will continue to block that homeowners access to the beach. I've never had more disgust with beach clubs than I do now, and I was pretty disgusted with them before...

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    Any thoughts on course of action? Seems painfully obvious that beach replenishment does not work. They have been doing it for the last fifteen years or so, and Sandy still wrecked us. Just look at South Seaside Park which has a pretty substantial dune system, they seemed to fare better than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    The fish are in... the surf's been good... everything from the MHW line out is in it's natural state.

    But turn around and look landward. It's a bizarre scene. Nothing is normal... nothing is natural. Many people still have not gotten back into their homes and businesses, while across the street, palaces rise out of the dunes in a matter of weeks for the wealthy private beach clubbers, who will relax in their cabanas while ignoring the horror of the broken lives around them like they aren't there, and don't matter.
    And not one word from the media...still personally disgusted w/ how this was covered as compared to Katrina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    The fish are in... the surf's been good... everything from the MHW line out is in it's natural state.

    But turn around and look landward. It's a bizarre scene. Nothing is normal... nothing is natural. Many people still have not gotten back into their homes and businesses, while across the street, palaces rise out of the dunes in a matter of weeks for the wealthy private beach clubbers, who will relax in their cabanas while ignoring the horror of the broken lives around them like they aren't there, and don't matter.
    So true, bizarre is the word I would use as well. Surfed my local moco spot Monday afternoon, scored a solo longboard sesh, 2-3 ft peelers, super fun and all by myself. BUT..the loud sounds of excavators working the beachfront palaces owned by out of staters took my stoke down a notch, then look to my south and see huge crane trying to remove debris from a destroyed beach club that will likely never be rebuilt. And then the tide started to fill in (like 2.5 hours past low) and the little beach that is left disappeared and water rolled up to the seawall. Just kept looking back at land and thinking how not normal this is and how this summer is going to the strangest one I have seen in my 30 yrs.

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    what's a beach club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaGaffer View Post
    what's a beach club?
    google search = beach clubs NJ

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    It's a different story in SNJ, ( I'm in SIC) I feel for you guys up the northern end. Keep at it and be positive