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  1. #91
    Give respect / get respect is a great saying but it seems that sometimes it only applies to non-locals or the less experienced. Locals and advanced surfers need to do the same. I surfed Indian River, DE a few years back and I'm a pretty lousy surfer and rarely get in the water. I know surf etiquette though. There were only 3 of us in the water on a waist high right break and this one young 18-21 year old guy would constantly ignore any respect for either of the other 2 of us and paddle right or left of us to the peak and snake any/every wave he could as if neither of us existed at all. Myself and the other guy weren't nearly as good as this tool, but the other respectful one and I took proper turns in the lineup. After 3-4 snakes I hollered at the tool to wait his turn but he ignored me and never said a word. Just because you are the better surfer doesn't mean you can disrespect others less experienced who are doing it fairly. So what if we occassionally fall on the pop up or miss a wave with a weak paddle or poor wave selection. It's was a freaking waist high day for gods sake!

  2. #92
    Darwinism. This is a microcasm of what I feel to be fundamentally wrong with modern america... socialism. Everyone wins, everyone passes, nobody should have their feelings hurt. Competition breeds quality and progression through inspiration.

    Haha sorry, in said conditions this minsdet really isn't necessary - I just find the genrral retoric rathrer weak and all too prevalent these days.

  3. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Erock View Post
    All this local-centric talk lately has me thinking about who the worst people I've ever been around in the lineup are and where they are from. This is completely anecdotal, all about blanket statements and over-generalizations, so don't anyone take this personally and start whining about anything other than what I'm whining about. Got it?




    Worst People in the Lineup:

    1) Italians: They're always in Barbados, I have no freaking idea what attracts so many of them. I've had them repeatedly fade me, friends and locals I know down there. Seen them get called out of the water, slapped around, yelled at and they still don't seem to get it. The worst was one who almost landed on my head at Soup Bowl on a 3' OH day when I was tucking up under the lip.

    2) VA Beachers: I have never seen as many paddle-arounds and senseless paddle battles in one session than those around VA Beach locals and/or transplants. This goes way, way back to my grom years when Hotwax used to run a pro-am and I surfed the 17th St. comp a couple years and having to be around large groups of Vabeechers in the warmup areas. First time I have ever seen kids intentionally sit right underneath you to block you off waves. Not to mention every trip to the OBX I have ever been on--it's almost guaranteed if you have miles of beach to you and a couple buds a group of Vabeechers will paddle out right beside or on top of you. Hell, there are a couple transplants here who do the same thing to this day. They don't usually crowd me out too much because they know I'll just run over them now but they straight up harass my best friend sometimes

    3) UNCW Students (excluding Gnaractually, never met him in person but he seems like a standup dude): Beside the fact they all seem to think it's cute to drive down the right turn lane and cut in front of the line of people doing the proper thing waiting for the drawbridge at WB... even though this act of complete selfishness and disrespect relegates them to below rancid douche status in my book, I still think they are worse in the water. This definitely dovetails with the VA Beach factor somewhat, I'm sure. The problem with most UNCW surfers is they are "Summer Pros," and those who do surf in the winter suck just as bad too. It's almost guaranteed if someone ditches their board in front of you, cuts you off only to fall, paddles for the shoulder of the wave you're riding and getting in your way instead of duckdiving the whitewater behind you, back paddles you at Masonboro then has the audacity to ask for a ride on your boat back to WB and/or any other kooky thing you can think of--it's almost surely a UNCW student.





    So, what's everyone else's top 3 WORST PEOPLE TO SURF AROUND?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKiglaELuw

    the worst people to surf around: people that whine about other surfers and stereotype them for 1. race, 2. geographic location, or 3. choice in academic institution

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by RobfromFredneck View Post
    Give respect / get respect is a great saying but it seems that sometimes it only applies to non-locals or the less experienced. Locals and advanced surfers need to do the same. I surfed Indian River, DE a few years back and I'm a pretty lousy surfer and rarely get in the water. I know surf etiquette though. There were only 3 of us in the water on a waist high right break and this one young 18-21 year old guy would constantly ignore any respect for either of the other 2 of us and paddle right or left of us to the peak and snake any/every wave he could as if neither of us existed at all. Myself and the other guy weren't nearly as good as this tool, but the other respectful one and I took proper turns in the lineup. After 3-4 snakes I hollered at the tool to wait his turn but he ignored me and never said a word. Just because you are the better surfer doesn't mean you can disrespect others less experienced who are doing it fairly. So what if we occassionally fall on the pop up or miss a wave with a weak paddle or poor wave selection. It's was a freaking waist high day for gods sake!
    you also stated you rarely surf. so you just show up and are entitled to equal share? the guy who (i assume) surfs there everyday has to share with you? he probably would if you could surf or are at least somewhat known. maybe you need to wait your turn. hinmo24T said it well. this entitled mind set is weak. the worst mistake most non-locals or new surfers make (anywhere on earth) is to paddle out and compete for waves with the big boys... and then cry when shown no respect. wake up! try being the garbage man and taking waves nobody wants at first. expect to get burned here and there. it's also referred to as 'evolution at work'. i can hear Walter from the big lebowski "doesn't anyone give a fu*K about the rules!!"
    Last edited by AtanticO; Jul 11, 2013 at 02:45 AM.

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by AtanticO View Post
    you also stated you rarely surf. so you just show up and are entitled to equal share? the guy who (i assume) surfs there everyday has to share with you? he probably would if you could surf or are at least somewhat known. maybe you need to wait your turn. hinmo24T said it well. this entitled mind set is weak. the worst mistake most non-locals or new surfers make (anywhere on earth) is to paddle out and compete for waves with the big boys... and then cry when shown no respect. wake up! try being the garbage man and taking waves nobody wants at first. expect to get burned here and there. it's also referred to as 'evolution at work'.

    guys its just water. stop stressing so much about the politics of it. in my opinion, a guy could be spinning in circles on a screen door, and if hes having more fun than the top ranked dude in the ESA more power to him! The problem with surf culture is the ego's "good" surfers develop. We are all equal, weather you can boost a 4 foot air on command, or can't even stand. Surfing is life, religion, and fun. Not a way to jerk yourself off in front of your friends and put ur name in the rosters of contests no one will remember in 10 years.

  6. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by hinmo24t View Post
    This is a microcasm of what I feel to be fundamentally wrong with
    with...Mike Tyson's ability to spell?

    Get NJshred over here. He'll give that girl Chantal a microcasm. Then she'll love him long time to the tune of 23ft peaks.

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by trevolution View Post
    guys its just water. stop stressing so much about the politics of it. in my opinion, a guy could be spinning in circles on a screen door, and if hes having more fun than the top ranked dude in the ESA more power to him! The problem with surf culture is the ego's "good" surfers develop. We are all equal, weather you can boost a 4 foot air on command, or can't even stand. Surfing is life, religion, and fun. Not a way to jerk yourself off in front of your friends and put ur name in the rosters of contests no one will remember in 10 years.
    agreed trevolution. but i think you missed my point. the sense of entitlement people carry with them into the water is. if your not that into surfing, and rarely surf, and it's obvious... don't be surprised when guys who are... gasp... don't bend over for you. that being said, of course there are lines that shouldn't be crossed. and yes, surfing is for everyone, but waves in some places and for some people, are a limited resource.

    besides, what did that guy expect from frothing grom?

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by AtanticO View Post
    besides, what did that guy expect from frothing grom?
    I'm frothing, aren't you frothing AO? Might actually be some motion in the ocean in the morn.

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    I'm frothing, aren't you frothing AO? Might actually be some motion in the ocean in the morn.
    im gonna save the frothing for my old lady, but im pretty sure she'll just say "don't touch me!"

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by AtanticO View Post
    im gonna save the frothing for my old lady, but im pretty sure she'll just say "don't touch me!"
    Serious, brah? Sad story. I thought them Italians were an affectionate people.