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    [QUOTE=brewengineer;169050]That is my problem with old archy. I agree with some of the stuff he posts, and I am pro local and organic foods. Then he goes off on a tin foil rant about vaccines and the evils of modern medicine.



    An interesting article about people that believe in all conspiracy theories.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma...fb-share&_r=1&

    I also agree that more studies need to be done on the effects of GMO.

    While I agree there has to be more testing of GMO's and I myself avoid GMO's, the general public should know if what they are eating is GMO or not. The FDA deputy was a VP for Monsanto. That sounds corrupt to me. Monsanto with the help from our gov should not be allowed to play god with the earths food supply. Even if you grow you own and/or buy local organic you still aren't safe. Seeds and pollen are carried by wind water and animals and can infect any crop anywhere.



    Read the insert for flu vaccine. There are risks. Some serious.
    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../ucm123694.pdf
    Not to mention their ineffectiveness. http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.r...catid=57563507
    Here's a list of people awarded compensation from a court of law from flu vaccine injuries. Some cases death occurred. http://drtenpenny.com/vaccine-court-...shot-injuries/

    The government promotes the flu vaccine as a form of protection, but you never hear from the gov to take vitamin c, zinc to boost your immunity. I juice twice a day and load up on vitamins. I have not had a cold or flu in 10 years.

    Here's a list of some ingrediants in most common vaccines. I'll pass thank you. I don't want to inject myself with monkey fetal cells or human fetal cells. Formaldehyde aluminum dioxide mercury: aren't these toxic. Remember the people approving these ingrediants as safe at those levels also approve the safety of flouride in drinking water.
    http://rense.com/general59/vvac.htm
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/fea...randjean-choi/
    http://rense.com/general28/jers.htm

    So I beg to differ from your "I'm a kook" argument. The medical industry along with gov and private corps do stuff for the sake of profit and not in our best interest. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's fact.

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    Yeah. That polio vaccine is horrible so much better when thousands died from polio.
    And that's the problem with conspiracy theorists. When everything is a conspiracy you lose your audience. You're just the guy crying wolf.
    Vaccines are a good thing. GMO may be bad. You can't blanket everything as bad and corrupt

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    That is my problem with old archy. I agree with some of the stuff he posts, and I am pro local and organic foods. Then he goes off on a tin foil rant about vaccines and the evils of modern medicine.



    An interesting article about people that believe in all conspiracy theories.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma...fb-share&_r=1&

    I also agree that more studies need to be done on the effects of GMO.

    While I agree there has to be more testing of GMO's and I myself avoid GMO's, the general public should know if what they are eating is GMO or not. The FDA deputy was a VP for Monsanto. That sounds corrupt to me. Monsanto with the help from our gov should not be allowed to play god with the earths food supply. Even if you grow you own and/or buy local organic you still aren't safe. Seeds and pollen are carried by wind water and animals and can infect any crop anywhere.



    Read the insert for flu vaccine. There are risks. Some serious.
    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../ucm123694.pdf
    Not to mention their ineffectiveness. http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.r...catid=57563507
    Here's a list of people awarded compensation from a court of law from flu vaccine injuries. Some cases death occurred. http://drtenpenny.com/vaccine-court-...shot-injuries/

    The government promotes the flu vaccine as a form of protection, but you never hear from the gov to take vitamin c, zinc to boost your immunity. I juice twice a day and load up on vitamins. I have not had a cold or flu in 10 years.

    Here's a list of some ingrediants in most common vaccines. I'll pass thank you. I don't want to inject myself with monkey fetal cells or human fetal cells. Formaldehyde aluminum dioxide mercury: aren't these toxic. Remember the people approving these ingrediants as safe at those levels also approve the safety of flouride in drinking water.
    http://rense.com/general59/vvac.htm
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/fea...randjean-choi/
    http://rense.com/general28/jers.htm

    So I beg to differ from your "I'm a kook" argument. The medical industry along with gov and private corps do stuff for the sake of profit and not in our best interest. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's fact.

    You've obviously invested a lot of your own energy into researching this topic and for that I commend you. I can't validate any of what you said without doing my own research and to be honest I just can't be bothered right now. That's another unfortunate reality.

    I will say though that you just have to be careful about discerning facts from fiction. It's a thin line between reality and delusion. There are a lot of people out there that would influence you in either direction. As long as you remain a rational informed person then you will benefit from your efforts. As soon as you start buying into delusions you have effectively diminished your own efforts and turned them from fruitful to fruitless and even self-damning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    That is my problem with old archy. I agree with some of the stuff he posts, and I am pro local and organic foods. Then he goes off on a tin foil rant about vaccines and the evils of modern medicine.



    An interesting article about people that believe in all conspiracy theories.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma...fb-share&_r=1&

    I also agree that more studies need to be done on the effects of GMO.
    Mr. Gates on population control and vaccines.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDx7ljWcD0

    Here's Mr. Gates again with his success in erradicating polio in India.
    http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gate...ralysis-death/

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    Yeah. That polio vaccine is horrible so much better when thousands died from polio.
    And that's the problem with conspiracy theorists. When everything is a conspiracy you lose your audience. You're just the guy crying wolf.
    Vaccines are a good thing. GMO may be bad. You can't blanket everything as bad and corrupt
    So vaccines in GMO food are good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by northendcanyon View Post


    You've obviously invested a lot of your own energy into researching this topic and for that I commend you. I can't validate any of what you said without doing my own research and to be honest I just can't be bothered right now. That's another unfortunate reality.

    I will say though that you just have to be careful about discerning facts from fiction. It's a thin line between reality and delusion. There are a lot of people out there that would influence you in either direction. As long as you remain a rational informed person then you will benefit from your efforts. As soon as you start buying into delusions you have effectively diminished your own efforts and turned them from fruitful to fruitless and even self-damning.
    Paranoid schizophrenia is not so uncommon. However, I still think the guy owns a natural foods or natural remedies company. I also don't consider what he does research. I think he reads a lot of conspiracy websites and takes it all as the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    Yeah. That polio vaccine is horrible so much better when thousands died from polio.
    And that's the problem with conspiracy theorists. When everything is a conspiracy you lose your audience. You're just the guy crying wolf.
    Vaccines are a good thing. GMO may be bad. You can't blanket everything as bad and corrupt
    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Paranoid schizophrenia is not so uncommon. However, I still think the guy owns a natural foods or natural remedies company. I also don't consider what he does research. I think he reads a lot of conspiracy websites and takes it all as the truth.
    Vaccine inserts and dangers of and ingrediants from drug company websites are conspiracy theory websites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Mr. Gates on population control and vaccines.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wpDx7ljWcD0

    Here's Mr. Gates again with his success in erradicating polio in India.
    http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gate...ralysis-death/
    NSNBC huh.
    I don't use the flu vaccine, and I am well aware of the strains of influenza that are resistant. I run every day and eat fairly healthy foods, so I never get the flu. I do think it is a good thing for people with autoimmune issues.
    It is sad that people like you ignore stats showing how many lives various vaccines have saved, yet you latch on to things like vaccines containing a fraction of a ppm of random chemicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    Vaccine inserts and dangers of and ingrediants from drug company websites are conspiracy theory websites?
    You get those from conspiracy websites. You never just use facts. You mix it all together and pick out the things you don't like without getting the big picture.