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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    yeah I read the article. creating artificial bacteria in a controlled environment aided by computers that are manipulated by man differs greatly from primordial soup.

    time and space are infinite therefore the possibilities are infinite.

    you and your kind can spend your lives trying to unlock the secrets of life in a lab, telescope, microscope, petri dish, test tube, etc.

    I put my faith in spiritual science. I chose to live in a spiritual world while confined to this 3 dimensional physical world. I do not fear death, and I have found great purpose in this life.

    please respect my beliefs as I respect yours.
    I do not fear death. I don't care if you are spiritual, but don't try to enter a debate on the origins of life and speak like creationism is fact. If your purpose in life was spreading fear mongering on a surfing forum, then I guess you are succeeding. Just remember, spiritual science didn't give us longer lifespans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    like I said the debate can go on forever. so i'm over it wasting my time with it. you vaccinate and I will not. my choice your choice.

    as far as proof the, center for disease control locks my computer and prevents it from entering their site. maybe you can find success.








    NIP: Vacsafe/Concerns/Gen/Human Cell Cultures in Manufacturing ...

    http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce.../humancell.htm

    Jun 06, 2000 Use of Human Cell Cultures in Vaccine Manufacturing. CDC's responsibility is to ... , and some of these cell lines originated from aborted fetal ...





    NIP: Vacsafe/Concerns/Gen/Contamination of Vaccines

    http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...tamination.htm

    Sep 28, 1997 Vaccine manufacturers obtain human cell lines from FDA-certified cell banks. Fetal Tissue and Vaccines. ... Centers for Disease Control and


    I did however find that some vaccines contain fetal bovine serum. like I said its your choice, but I don't think I want to inject fetal bovine dna directly into my blood stream any time soon.

    http://www.cdc.gov/search.do?q=fetal...ell=1&ie=UTF-8
    All but your last link doesn't open, and it isn't an issue of being blocked. The only mention I see of stem cells or bovine anything is studies around the influenza vaccines. That hardly constitutes fear of all vaccinations. I personally don't care if you don't use any vaccines. Just don't spread your insanity to the rest of the population. Your faith won't be saving you from a hepatitis or polio outbreak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandblasters View Post
    yall just need to give up on this guy.. some people (hipsters) just try to do there own thing thinking there cool but in reality there not. go ahead ignore the data, but when your sleeping and jesus comes to you and your dreams and ***** smacks you dont blame me.
    haha hipster. get f**kin real dude and show some respect, and go ahead and inject yourself with fetal bovine serum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum , monkey kidney tissue, and chicken embryo.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...oads/mumps.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...pdx-full-b.pdf

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    [QUOTE=archy;170596]haha hipster. get f**kin real dude and show some respect, and go ahead and inject yourself with fetal bovine serum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum , monkey kidney tissue, and chicken embryo.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...oads/mumps.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...pdx-full-b.pdf[/OTE]

    wow man im just busting your balls calm down lol. but by all means what you do with your body is not of mine or anyone else but in order for your kids to go to school they need them unless you want to home school them. but i could really go for some chicken embryo right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    haha hipster. get f**kin real dude and show some respect, and go ahead and inject yourself with fetal bovine serum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum , monkey kidney tissue, and chicken embryo.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...oads/mumps.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...pdx-full-b.pdf
    Again, your fear comes from ignorance. From your wiki link:
    "The rich variety of proteins in fetal bovine serum maintains cultured cells in a medium in which they can survive, grow, and divide."
    So they use it as a medium when cultivating the vaccine. I don't see the issue. Of course you will get that in the vaccine if it is the culture medium. Pretty normal microbiology. Would you prefer they stick to human sources? Maybe they could use synthetic mediums so you have another chemical to ***** about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    All but your last link doesn't open, and it isn't an issue of being blocked. The only mention I see of stem cells or bovine anything is studies around the influenza vaccines. That hardly constitutes fear of all vaccinations. I personally don't care if you don't use any vaccines. Just don't spread your insanity to the rest of the population. Your faith won't be saving you from a hepatitis or polio outbreak.
    no my faith wont protect me from a polio out break, common sense will. polio is transferred through droplets from coughing and sneezing and contaminated fecal matter and, so proper hygiene, drinking clean water, and not surfing near storm drains and river mouths after heavy rains should keep safe. same goes for hepatitis pretty much. common sense. ive gone 43 years without contracting these illnesses, but according to you I should be sick.

    as far as my insanity, that is your opinion. common people ridicule what they don't understand.

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    [QUOTE=sandblasters;170598]
    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    haha hipster. get f**kin real dude and show some respect, and go ahead and inject yourself with fetal bovine serum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum , monkey kidney tissue, and chicken embryo.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...oads/mumps.pdf

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...pdx-full-b.pdf[/OTE]

    wow man im just busting your balls calm down lol. but by all means what you do with your body is not of mine or anyone else but in order for your kids to go to school they need them unless you want to home school them. but i could really go for some chicken embryo right now.
    thanks but my kids will be home schooled, the current educational institutions are nothing but indoctrination centers teaching kids to become productive, obedient workers for the system with no curriculum to teach critical thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    no my faith wont protect me from a polio out break, common sense will. polio is transferred through droplets from coughing and sneezing and contaminated fecal matter and, so proper hygiene, drinking clean water, and not surfing near storm drains and river mouths after heavy rains should keep safe. same goes for hepatitis pretty much. common sense. ive gone 43 years without contracting these illnesses, but according to you I should be sick.

    as far as my insanity, that is your opinion. common people ridicule what they don't understand.
    Which is why you ridicule vaccines. Don't you live in Jersey. Good luck avoiding contaminated water. The reason you will never contract Polio, is because most of the people around you are vaccinated. You should thank them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy

    thanks but my kids will be home schooled, the current educational institutions are nothing but indoctrination centers teaching kids to become productive, obedient workers for the system with no curriculum to teach critical thinking.
    I am honestly sad for your children.
    Last edited by brewengineer; Jun 4, 2013 at 08:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    I do not fear death. I don't care if you are spiritual, but don't try to enter a debate on the origins of life and speak like creationism is fact. If your purpose in life was spreading fear mongering on a surfing forum, then I guess you are succeeding. Just remember, spiritual science didn't give us longer lifespans.
    you know what i'm over this thread and i'm over you brewdude, cuz all you do is twist words and straw man. I never claimed creationism as fact, only my opinion. unlike you who said life was created by a combination of chemicals and reactions, which cannot be proven either. and certainly cannot explain the creation of consciousness. and I never said anything to discredit modern science only that I object to vaccines and there are dangers inherited with them.

    SEE YA!