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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by SHREDSLED View Post

    EMass - aren't you a kook asking basic how to surf questions on other threads? Not sure why you think you are so entitled to the ocean. Or the road.
    I don't believe in entitlement of any kind or form. I believe in community and social ecosystems where all are equal and should share and enjoy available resources. Like the road and ocean. To me, our surroundings and resources are for all to share and enjoy. The ownership of land and real estate almost seems comical and absurd to me because on a rudimentary level it's transparent and without the assigned value of written deeds and paper currency, really belongs to the public though it rightfully should be respected as one's habitat for the time being.

    I'm looking to share the resource of the ocean only taking what I need which is a narrow width at that break, whereas Joe Surffisher is casting three lines in panoramic fashion claiming five times or more the area I need. My occupying that small peak and zone was in no way preventing him in casting all three of his lines elsewhere but in the general vicinity. I want those surf fishers to surf fish at that break if they enjoy it. I also want my narrow width of water where the one peak is at the time. That happens to be 1/5 to 1/10 of the stretch of water that their 2-3 lines are cast.

    I won't say he's looking forward to fishing any less than I to surfing. But our environmental conditions necessary to partake in our pastime are so farther and fewer between than his, especially this time of year. I've gone out every day in the last 7, sometimes 2-3 times only to find unsurfable conditions. Can he say the same? Then, think about how hard we work physically to catch a wave during sessions where rides can be had but they are next to none. Compare that to this guy throwing three lines out there, sticking the rods in a plastic pipe, then sitting on his rear and getting fat.

    If he's there to fish out of the love of fishing, by all means, fish like you mean it and catch those things. But a guy planted on a cooler for a seat with a cold one in his hand in sedentary fashion, does he really care much about what he's doing? He may have just as much fun sitting on said cooler sucking down beers and still looking at the moon coming up, which does sound pretty good. After I'm done my sesh, I may be inclined some nights to join him and offer a sixer up while I ask how the wife and kids are.

    I especially take issue when, like the above poster stated, he's not even catching a cold. So why must he cast those dang lines and let them sit in those pipes (whatever they're called) while he sits on his can? I've surf fished for a total of 90 minutes and based on both intuition plus mere deductive reasoning of where to cast based on where others were scoring catches around me, I caught 3 fish in that hour and a half, two of which were call-outs that "I'm catching one on this cast." Am I saying I should now be sponsored by Bass Pro Shops? Heck no. But the shore wasn't exactly reaping Biblical (parables of mass catches by the disciples for those who don't get that one) harvests that eve and I had to be re-taught how to cast prior to that session because it had been so long since I'd fished.

    As for the road, I'm talking about having my directional on for 1/4 to a 1/2 mile or more, in plain sight, and clearly because I need to change lanes to let someone riding my ass pass me as a courtesy to them or to get near the exit I need to get off of. I'm not talking about driving to endanger. But when run of the mill Texan ignores that need of mine and this, the safe and necessary ow of vehicular traffic, I'm in the wrong? No, he/she is an impediment to society and a road hazard.

    This is not a blanket statement. It is 95% of all instances I've driven in TX and that amounts altogether to probably a total a 4 years of my life. That's not to say everyone in the Northeast knows how to drive (Maine...I'm talking to you and your 55mph in the left lane of a 65). I see people in MA all the time that fail to realize that a rotary/traffic circle (or roundabout for you others) is not a stop sign. It's a yield, and to maintain safe and effective traffic flow must be treated like a merge of an on-ramp while yielding right of way to vehicles already in and coming around the circle. Much like a drop-in on a wave. You don't cut them off, but you are ok taking off after them as long as you stay the heck out of their way and let them ride.

    I typically give more than I take or ask for. If I happen to be asking for a lot at times, I make sure to give an equal amount in return if not more. Yes, I'm asking basic questions on here that are useful to all, not just me. I also contribute to many threads of others', whether it's parts of surfing I have experienced to date, or with life discussions, or simple comedy.

    I've been treated quite well by surfing thus far, both by people I've encountered and from the activity and nature itself. My thought process is that creates a debt that must be repaid by putting whatever good I can back into the surfing community and those in it. I never littered before, but I now find myself much more green-conscious every day to the extent where I'll pick up trash if I see it. I've also filed paperwork for a vacant seat on the local conservation board because I have a valued interest in the local environment and ability for surfers, beachgoers, fishermen, hunters, orienteers and all others outdoor enthusiasts to enjoy it.

    Today I sold a board to a girl who drove 2 hours each way to come get it and was very excited to do so. She was perfectly fine with paying my full asking price and because of the time and gas spent in coming all the way to me (I usually meet others halfway for a purchase or sale) I removed the wax on it then re-waxed it for her fully, put a brand-new noseguard on the whole width of the nose (not a potato chip triangle nose guard; this was a fish), and repaired a small blemish (the only one on the board) that may have at some point become a ding or crack. After all that, I told her to give me $40 less than the agreed upon price because of her time and gas expense, at which she laughed in my face and refused to pay less than the agreed price since I'd gone the extra mile for her. Do I expect recognition or a public commendation from the Mayor for this? Not at all; it was my duty because of her sheer enthusiasm for the board and efforts to come all the way and get it.

    Yes, I am a kook; quite a grateful, motivated and enthusiastic kook. Just like you and all others here were a kook at some point for different lengths of time. Am I more entitled to demand entitlement to ocean area when I progress past kookdom? When do I cease being a kook and what rewards do I get on that special day? Are beginner, novice, intermediate and expert classifications of skill level or are they strata of a caste system of entitlement?

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    Jesus H. Christ.

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    Too long, didn't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHREDSLED View Post
    Too long, didn't read.
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    Jesus H. Christ.
    Buahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    I don't believe in entitlement of any kind or form. I believe in community and social ecosystems where all are equal and should share and enjoy available resources. Like the road and ocean. To me, our surroundings and resources are for all to share and enjoy. The ownership of land and real estate almost seems comical and absurd to me because on a rudimentary level it's transparent and without the assigned value of written deeds and paper currency, really belongs to the public though it rightfully should be respected as one's habitat for the time being.
    ..What is this? I don't even..

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by jchafard View Post
    ..What is this? I don't even..
    You read all of that???

    I think he wishes he lived in one of the commie countries. Too young and green to realize all political systems look good on paper.

    Thanks for reading that 1280+ word novel and highlighting one of the more absurd pieces.

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    "The Art of Surfcasting with Lures" by Zeno Hromin

    short simple read loaded with information on how to approach fishing the surf the fun way; with artaficials.

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    then go ahead and google "Surf Plugology" by bassdozer and your off to the races.

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    anyways- the best way to learn is to just get out there... talk to other surf fishermen, most are friendly, some are not... just tell them your new at it...
    Alot of it - in jersey anyways- has to do with being at the right place at the right time. Generally in the spring the bass chase the bait. find the bait and most likely youll find bass. althought this spring has not been very good... if you see alot of guys casting from the shore close together- there is proabably fish there too... thats usually using plugs or swimming lures or metal...
    if you like to just cast out- put your rod down and wait- you may want to try clams or bunker chunks - stop by a local fish shop- they will set you up for that...
    you can also try fluke fishing with some gulp or something...

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by SHREDSLED View Post
    Too long, didn't read.
    I call that a concession. But then again, you're entitled to only read what you want to. Put some dough in that bank account for that mouth of yours so the checks it writes can be cashed, brah!