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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Taylor View Post
    We've all seen guys on the Solid pancake thin alias with literally no volume and those things seem to take up plenty of wave energy. The gang buster like I said has a ton of buoyancy so it's weight wont make it sink. The weight should create allot of momentum and thus capture the wave energy quite well. This all my theory tho and I hope to prove it with a detailed ride report.
    I think the design of your board is good, basically the stub/minisimmons shape that's in style right now. I know you put in a ton of work on that fin but I really don't understand the idea behind it. Basically, you foiled the outside edge all the way around creating 180 degrees of lift. I'd assume that at least 90 degrees of the "lift" created would actually be pulling you into the water essentially making you heavier and slower.

    Like I said, I don't understand the idea and I've made assumptions. Can you elaborate on the idea and how/why it will work?

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    Well considering the lift created at the nose of the surfboard which will keep the annular wing at an angle that will create upward lift at the tail not downward lift the tunnel should actually push the tail out of the water better like a hydrofoil. My board has a flattish tail to rocker so the nose lift will be able to direct the tunnel angle nicely. Also the tunnel is known to have a very nice loose feel but still have sufficient hold for fast angles of attack. Rail to rail roll resistance is minimal. I've never used one so I had to try it out. I guess the only way to know for sure is to make one and try it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Taylor View Post
    Well considering the lift created at the nose of the surfboard which will keep the annular wing at an angle that will create upward lift at the tail not downward lift the tunnel should actually push the tail out of the water better like a hydrofoil. My board has a flattish tail to rocker so the nose lift will be able to direct the tunnel angle nicely. Also the tunnel is known to have a very nice loose feel but still have sufficient hold for fast angles of attack. Rail to rail roll resistance is minimal. I've never used one so I had to try it out. I guess the only way to know for sure is to make one and try it out.
    Oh yeah, you've got yourself a nice planing hull there for sure and it will definitely create a lot of lift throughout the nose and body.

    The tunnel fin is foiled on the outside and flat on the inside right?

    IMO, As soon as the tunnel starts nearing the bottom section, the "lift" it creates will be pulling the board down. Maybe you need that to eliminate the skipping stone effect that happens with boards with wide tails... I would have bought that explanation. I think the best option if you're going to use a tunnel would be to foil inside and out. That way you'd be able to take advantage of bernoulli at least a little bit and the "sinking lift" would be balanced.

  4. #154
    I pulled a Fitzpedo last week. Guy dropped in so I went for it... Broke every bone in his body. I feel really bad now, but it was his fault. He was only 9 but he should know better.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    I'll tell you what.... the fitzpedo cleaned the hell up out of the lineup on that fatefull day. there wasnt one snake after that happened.... but then again.... it was the fitzpedo.

  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    I pulled a Fitzpedo last week. Guy dropped in so I went for it... Broke every bone in his body. I feel really bad now, but it was his fault. He was only 9 but he should know better.
    SIC!!! I like hearing about lesson teaching fitzpedos!
    but... I have to say...
    Video or it didnt happen. I mean after all, I did provide video of my "me"pedo.

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    Due to the ongoing investigation I can not provide evidence.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    SIC!!! I like hearing about lesson teaching fitzpedos!
    but... I have to say...
    Video or it didnt happen. I mean after all, I did provide video of my "me"pedo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    Due to the ongoing investigation I can not provide evidence.
    sounds like you screwed up the fitzpedo... a perfect fitzpedo leaves no room for legal recourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClemsonSurf View Post
    Oh yeah, you've got yourself a nice planing hull there for sure and it will definitely create a lot of lift throughout the nose and body.

    The tunnel fin is foiled on the outside and flat on the inside right?

    IMO, As soon as the tunnel starts nearing the bottom section, the "lift" it creates will be pulling the board down. Maybe you need that to eliminate the skipping stone effect that happens with boards with wide tails... I would have bought that explanation. I think the best option if you're going to use a tunnel would be to foil inside and out. That way you'd be able to take advantage of bernoulli at least a little bit and the "sinking lift" would be balanced.
    Well this tunnel in the board now is foiled outside only, I had made another that was foiled both sides but ended up scrapping it because I messed it up. I figured outside only would work well seeing how an airplane wing which is flat on bottom is able to fly upside down so I went with keeping the inside flat to save some man hours. Considering that airplanes with flat bottom wings can fly upside down tells me that upward lift is still achievable with the foil configuration on my tunnel fin. I'll agree that it may not be as efficient as an annular wing foiled both sides but I'm not flying at 50'000 feet I'm only trying to stay in a wave.
    I like your idea about the tunnel holding the board into the water better tho that could be an interesting effect. Like I said I just had to try it out and hey if it sucks I can always cut it off and put a 2+1 set up on or something ... I left allot of tail blocking for this exact reason.

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    Well fellas its been a good time on here with you and all of the antics.. The Gang Buster is complete and now you can all place bets as to how well it will perform obviously. image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg

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    Well boys I tried to test today but the surf was so terrible I decided to not curse myself by trudging through the hoards of miserable tourists at my local spot. This weekend in Maine looks very promising for a test run.