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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodVibes View Post
    Whats up with the surf related question Arch?Is this some sort of a trap?
    sshh. i'm gonna drop a bomb on the global eugenics program haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    I think we would still have Danes and Kellys regardless. people like Pat Curren and Greg Nole conquered the un-conquerable before the advent of pro surfing.

    How about the elders of surfing before Curren and Nole? The Buffalo? Eddy Aikua? And the others who surfed in the shadow of the Duke's "bringing back surfing"? All not pro-surfers... but most competed in one event or more... and hell they even have/had a competition named after them at one point of time.

    I want to see what happens to Slater when he retires... if he retires. Will he still surf or be the front man of the surfing industry as a voice and icon?

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    I thought the commercial success of "Blue Crush" was when I started to notice a big difference in the lineup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalarast View Post
    How about the elders of surfing before Curren and Nole? The Buffalo? Eddy Aikua? And the others who surfed in the shadow of the Duke's "bringing back surfing"? All not pro-surfers... but most competed in one event or more... and hell they even have/had a competition named after them at one point of time.

    I want to see what happens to Slater when he retires... if he retires. Will he still surf or be the front man of the surfing industry as a voice and icon?
    you are correct about Buffalo and Aikua, they were not pro surfers, they surfed. Aikua was a professional life guard. that's how he supported himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit98Surf View Post
    I thought the commercial success of "Blue Crush" was when I started to notice a big difference in the lineup
    yeah me too. but I think that movie came about from the popularity of pro surfing.
    what really pinched a nerve with me was the QS contest in NY. f**k after that I saw an article in the NY Times Sunday mag telling people where the closest/best spot to NYC were. then it was an invasion of hipster wannabe surfers clogging the line-ups and stealing parking spots.as if it wasn't bad enough before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    you are correct about Buffalo and Aikua, they were not pro surfers, they surfed. Aikua was a professional life guard. that's how he supported himself.
    Eddie was not a pro-surfer in our sense in that he did not provide his main income from surfing; but he did travel the circuits to surf. It also caused strains in his marriage that eventually between his travels and other events led to his divorce. His competitive heart of winning the Duke year after year strove him to be a better surfer.

    Can we make this into only one thread please... ha. I think you and I agree on all the same points; but do you think a pro-surfer is a true profession and did pro-surfing ruin surfing? I will say I am not a pro-surfer and actually never wanted to be and never competed in a surfing event in my life. I have competed in snowboarding and did travel around the states and also I rode competitively on the WERA circuit for motorcycle racing... I was never a pro-snowboarder or racer even though I made a buck here and there. Did professional snowboarding and professional motorcycle racing ruin snowboarding or motorcycles? Nope.

    EDIT: Oh and Buffalo was the first professional lifeguard and his son is the forefront in Ocean rescue... and also competed in surfing competitions.

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    A lot of people whore out surfing and the "image" or so called lifestyle. It might be the surf/non surf companies, Pros, learn to surf camps... Some people will surf when it's cold and nobody out just to get the feeling. Others see how they can use surfing to make money. Depends on your personality why you're affiliated with the surf community in the first place.

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    The real threat to the surf "industry" is not pro-surfing but the surfing corporation. Yes it is fed or led in part by the pro-surfer; but also the image as lirider states that surfing has. Who doesn't want what we have... a feel good honest fun and enjoyment.

    WRV... local surf shop for me... stuggles to make money from boards because they can't compete with the Chinese blanks coming out cheaper than they can shape a real surfboard no matter how much cuts they want to do on the board. So how do they get by... clothing and selling to the image of surfing. Other surf shops in my area... 17th street and Coastal Edge are viewed as Pac Sun by the Ocean... selling an image and not selling to the surfer.

    Don't target the pro-surfer I guess is my thought.... target the corporation and the popularity around surfing that is killing.... or hurting surfing for others who are there for the "stoke" or just enjoyment of being able to paddle out.

    Local surf camps in my area play off that image... but they are ran by surfers like you and I. They make a buck off that tourist or local kid who wants to learn how to surf... they may never be soul surfers or just surf for anything than pure enjoyment... but the guys and gals who teach these kids get stoke off the lessons they give and the ability to surf when not working. Are they ruining surfing anymore than pro-surfers cause they are feeding the surfing corporate image?

    With that... I'm out

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    I don't think it ruined surfing at all... There would be more people in the water than the 60's with or w/o pro surfing.

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