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    Quote Originally Posted by hinmo24t View Post
    Maybe some people can only afford a bard made by gsi due to price. I had a walden cd4 mini longboard and it was gsi and it was a phenomenal board, the quality was excellent. Is it detrimental to the sport or welfare of others to buy products made in fashion to sell at a more affordable price? Something to think about...
    wow...where to begin...

    1. the gsi haydens are generally done in future flex construction, & retail for close to $800. hardly affordable. a pure glass build ff hayden wouldn't be too much more, possibly less, & a poly or eps one would definitely be cheaper.

    2. it is 100% detrimental to surfing & surf culture b/c when you buy a board built overseas, you're taking money away from a local, or at least domestic, board builder. & it's not like those overseas manufacturers are doing anything revolutionary in terms construction...most of that is happening domestically w/ future flex, coil industries, & a myriad of backyard/small scale operations that are experimenting w/ alternative construction methods, materials, & techniques. the only thing the overseas guys are doing is mimicking those guys & undercutting them on price.

    as someone else said, don't buy anything w/ a gsi laminate on it...surfing's version of monsanto.

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    are the pureglass ones actual haydenshapes boards just ordered from a different source, or are do they just recreate the shape? how much does it cost from them compared to buying a hayden in a shop, and how can i order one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND081 View Post
    are the pureglass ones actual haydenshapes boards just ordered from a different source, or are do they just recreate the shape? how much does it cost from them compared to buying a hayden in a shop, and how can i order one?
    the pureglass haydens are actually shaped by hayden cox himself & glassed at the pureglass factory california. if you go standard poly & stock glassing, it shouldn't be any more than you'd pay for a custom ...lost or whatever...$600 or so. you should be able to roll into your local shop that carries haydens & order one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    the pureglass haydens are actually shaped by hayden cox himself & glassed at the pureglass factory california. if you go standard poly & stock glassing, it shouldn't be any more than you'd pay for a custom ...lost or whatever...$600 or so. you should be able to roll into your local shop that carries haydens & order one up.
    ok now i'm confused. the boards in the shop have GSI on the tags so wouldn't that mean they're ordering from them instead of pureglass? so would i still be able to make an order to pureglass through them or is there a way online?

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    hayden shapes at pureglass. they glass, cnc cut boards also have a bunch of shaping rooms there. made in the US. GSI is definitely the monsanto of the surf world. plus, GSI trys to make it impossible for local/smaller dudes to compete. boards are given to shops who in turn, don't have to pay for 6 months, a year, whatever. low hanging fruit for the shop. not to much risk and they get to sell the trendy logo. local/smaller shapers simply cannot do this. they have to get paid up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND081 View Post
    ok now i'm confused. the boards in the shop have GSI on the tags so wouldn't that mean they're ordering from them instead of pureglass? so would i still be able to make an order to pureglass through them or is there a way online?
    you should absolutely be able to request that your custom order hayden be done at pureglass & not be a gsi popout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    you should absolutely be able to request that your custom order hayden be done at pureglass & not be a gsi popout.
    okay thanks

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    I have had 2 hayden from Pureglass and another from GSI. No complaints with either board in terms of durability or design/shape--cost was relatively the same. In regards to the entire GSI/pop-out debate...Hayden commented on a 'erbb thread a while ago regarding why he went with the Cobra factory as well mentions he pretty much rides the GSI stuff while traveling--thought that was a pretty interesting when a shaper/designer is riding that type of gear...new school builder and new school perspectives...

    http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/sho...ue#Post2226007

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    that's nice...good for hayden. the cynic in me says, "of course he's going to say that...he still gets paid whether someone goes directly to him or through gsi." every board i've seen from gsi has been a whole lot of "meh" from a design standpoint. nothing innovative or even slightly different. they are truly generic surfboards. medium-full, soft rails through the front 2/3 of the board transitioning to a hard rail the last 1/3, slight single-double concave, moderate rocker profile...white bread. of course they work...it's a tried & true formula, hard to **** it up.

    worth mentioning that gsi is an australian company...they've been exposed to it for far longer & more intensely than the us has. aussies generally have a different view on the china/thailand built surfboard also. they seem more tolerant/accepting of it. hayden may be a "new school" board designer, but in my experience, no one gives a damn about anything he does outside of the hypto krypto...which is just a glorified egg. nothing too revolutionary there beyond him partnering w/ the future flex folks.

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    njsurfer42 is spot on.