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  1. #31
    Every account I've read of big wave surfers indicates to me that they are still really scared when they get into those conditions, i.e., it's not likely you can ever get accustomed to putting yourself in that much danger. The high they get is from managing to escape. I surf for relaxation, not to see how close to the edge I can put myself, so I would have no interest in a 23 footer, even if it was physically possible for me. I'd never go skydiving either-- just have no interest in intentionally scaring myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    Yeah man I had a good group of guys I was training with, no egos, but every now and again accidents happen.
    That's the nature of sports, happens to the best of em

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    At my age I'll take 23 ****-high waves. better than nuthin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChavezYChavez View Post
    At my age I'll take 23 ****-high waves. better than nuthin.
    The blocked word was D-I-C-k

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    Yeah man I had a good group of guys I was training with, no egos, but every now and again accidents happen.
    Try tai chi chaun. I got into a rollover a few years ago and it really helped me rehab my shoulder/ribs. If done properly it will increase vitality to your aching knees and other joints. Also has great martial arts applications. BTW, for the record, my triple overhead plus days are a great memory, and all that, but at this point give me a clean 3 hour session in head high waves with my bros any day. Then a fattie, a cold one and a nap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChavezYChavez View Post
    The blocked word was D-I-C-k
    Wait, how'd you find out BCN's real name?!?! You're a private investigator brah!!!

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    You too dude? Don't you guys tap? HAHAHA
    Na man, Jesus never tapped. It's a tough line to tread between living to fight another day and fighting through a submission. All depends on what they got you in and if it's gonna break part of your body. Calf cutters, scissor locks or similar, it's laughable when guys tap on those because its not going to kill you, break a limb, or choke you unconscious. It's simply pain that you can label in your mind as a physical sensation that is fleeting and will be gone soon. It's when guys don't train every move that they end up in something for the first time during a fight or a comp and their body says "get me out of this schitt!! I've never felt this pain before and don't want to die!! Tap now and save us!!!" I use lesser-known hip subluxations out of full mount that get guys tapping like butterflies. That and cranking their neck on any guillotine. The spine is like Pavlov's bell for a victim to tap.

    Other subs, different story. While hypoxia is certainly not good for the brain, I'd be willing to be choked out cold before tapping. Usually, if you're defending like you should, they don't have perfect pressure on your carotid or trachea and you can weather the storm until they get gassed from their grip.

    I got heel hooked in a fight once where I had a great takedown and was going from side control to full mount and getting ready to rain down on the bastard when my post up leg was a bit too far forward and he cuffed it and cranked real fast. Dude was a brown belt jits so wasn't taking him long to crank on it. I felt a sensation comparable to a thin stream of boiling water running down the side of my knee and knew enough then to somersault out of it which worked. Ended up DQ'd later in the fight from a head strike right after he put his hand (third point/limb) to the ground, even though I was up points for a decision. Knee felt fine til 7 hours later when adrenaline wore off and I got up off the couch to get water and fell on my face. Partially torn MCL. Hurts like hell for 5-9 months and although doesn't require surgery it hurts a lot more than a full tear.

    Anyway, like the bumper sticker says, Jesus never tapped. Be one with the pain and it too shall pass. Like in life, nothing worse than tapping out in the face of challenge when you could've pushed through it.

    Back to 23 foot elevation and the litany of things we love to obsess about every day that NEVER will get old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sisurfdogg View Post
    Then a fattie, a cold one and a nap.
    Amen to that brotha

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    Na man, Jesus never tapped. It's a tough line to tread between living to fight another day and fighting through a submission. All depends on what they got you in and if it's gonna break part of your body. Calf cutters, scissor locks or similar, it's laughable when guys tap on those because its not going to kill you, break a limb, or choke you unconscious. It's simply pain that you can label in your mind as a physical sensation that is fleeting and will be gone soon. It's when guys don't train every move that they end up in something for the first time during a fight or a comp and their body says "get me out of this schitt!! I've never felt this pain before and don't want to die!! Tap now and save us!!!" I use lesser-known hip subluxations out of full mount that get guys tapping like butterflies. That and cranking their neck on any guillotine. The spine is like Pavlov's bell for a victim to tap.

    Other subs, different story. While hypoxia is certainly not good for the brain, I'd be willing to be choked out cold before tapping. Usually, if you're defending like you should, they don't have perfect pressure on your carotid or trachea and you can weather the storm until they get gassed from their grip.

    I got heel hooked in a fight once where I had a great takedown and was going from side control to full mount and getting ready to rain down on the bastard when my post up leg was a bit too far forward and he cuffed it and cranked real fast. Dude was a brown belt jits so wasn't taking him long to crank on it. I felt a sensation comparable to a thin stream of boiling water running down the side of my knee and knew enough then to somersault out of it which worked. Ended up DQ'd later in the fight from a head strike right after he put his hand (third point/limb) to the ground, even though I was up points for a decision. Knee felt fine til 7 hours later when adrenaline wore off and I got up off the couch to get water and fell on my face. Partially torn MCL. Hurts like hell for 5-9 months and although doesn't require surgery it hurts a lot more than a full tear.

    Anyway, like the bumper sticker says, Jesus never tapped. Be one with the pain and it too shall pass. Like in life, nothing worse than tapping out in the face of challenge when you could've pushed through it.

    Back to 23 foot elevation and the litany of things we love to obsess about every day that NEVER will get old.
    Solid post, but you gotta know when to tap, Big Nog should have, but his pride wouldn't let him, because he thought he is the best BJJ practitioner to ever live, which is not the case, he's up there, but Frank took that arm home with him. He had plenty of time to do so, he just ignored his body's advice to give up and paid the consequences. Jesus didn't tap because he couldn't freakin move being nailed to a cross and all, no verbal submissions in those days either, and no refs like Kim Winslow to let him die in the cage like she likes to let fighters do, so he really had no choice.

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    Dude heel hooks are notoriously sketchy it'd be pretty dumb to risk your entire leg to not tap.