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  1. #21
    Do people still not get it? We as humans have a responsibility to protect the other species on this planet. Every species. We are the only species on the earth capable of manipulating the environment on a large scale. We abuse the **** out of this power. We won the evolutionary jackpot, adn with that comes responsibility. And I am no environmentalist hack, this is just logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cosby's nephew View Post
    Do people still not get it? We as humans have a responsibility to protect the other species on this planet. Every species. We are the only species on the earth capable of manipulating the environment on a large scale. We abuse the **** out of this power. We won the evolutionary jackpot, adn with that comes responsibility. And I am no environmentalist hack, this is just logic.
    where is it written that we have a responsibility to other species? Other species are lucky that we have a sense of morality..... then there is this bible quote -
    Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea(I read sharks here) and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
    Last edited by MFitz73; Aug 6, 2013 at 01:51 PM.

  3. #23
    Where does our responsibility come from? I think you have a misplaced sense of morality is all. It's nice that you care about other living things, but save that love and caring for an organism that can return it. You are going to die one day and whether or not there are sharks in the ocean is going to have minimal impact on your future beyond the self created stress from interactions such as these on the internet.

    The big picture is this: Earth has a limited life span. Therefore everything on earth is temporary. What are we going to save the sharks for? So that future generations can be awed by their savagery? I don't need to be killed by the bare hands of a neanderthal to know they were vicious murderous hairy ape men. No I say we focus on saving humans first, then cuddly land animals and then if there is room on the spaceship for aquariums we will save the food species first. Frankly I'm not going to spare a tank for great white's but if it's a democracy and not a dictatorship (i would advocate the latter with myself being self appointed) then I guess we could take a vote on it.

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    BCN and NEF nailed it. Fitz it all makes sense now you're using the bible as justification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northendcanyon View Post
    Say what you want but I think sharks should be killed just like wolves should be around humans. In Africa the tribal people that have to live around lions and that are eaten by them want to kill them. Humans have just about wiped lions off the face of the earth. I think having a refuge for them is OK but what if humans need the space and resources? Humans trump in my opinion.
    Yeah, that's a good analogy. Humans should kill sharks cause we need their space (let's move into the ocean) and resources (do you realize what a staggeringly large amount of fish humans take from the ocean)?

    We're not competing, in the ecological sense, with sharks, so this is not a matter of scarcity of resources or space. We just want to be able to splash in the waves when we'd like without fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    were is it written that we have a responsibility to other species? Other species are lucky that we have a sense of morality..... then there is this bible quote -
    Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea(I read sharks here) and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
    Where is it written that I shouldn't **** in my neighbor's yard?

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    You guys should study biology for an undergrad and then go back and study conservation biology for your phd and fulfill your destiny as sissified ladymen environmentalist.

    seldom seen is actually a self hating human who wishes he was born a shark so he could eat all of us at his local line up only to realize that sharks can't surf and aren't actually smart enough to carry out such a sophisticated humanish idea so he just swims around in circles chasing his tail.

    Don't be mad brinestein

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    C'mon NEF, I'll just as soon discover the art of brevity as Nauset will crank tomorrow. We know this!!
    Sigh. Truth. Maybe a lump further north this weekend though.

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    MFITZ +1 Thanks for citing the created order and man's ordained dominion, which does promote stewardship of the planet, but establishes the value of and priority of human life. When we get this out of whack, we kill our young, calling it choice, and devote energies to save malevolent man-eaters. The thinking about needing to "cull humans" is approaching the dangerously "Hitler-esque" zone.

    Also, +1 shark-hunter, good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    Yeah, that's a good analogy. Humans should kill sharks cause we need their space (let's move into the ocean) and resources (do you realize what a staggeringly large amount of fish humans take from the ocean)?

    We're not competing, in the ecological sense, with sharks, so this is not a matter of scarcity of resources or space. We just want to be able to splash in the waves when we'd like without fear.

    Well firstly, I want to thank you for accepting my analogy as sound. Secondly I'm confused as to the rest of your post because it seems to be condescendingly disagreeing with me. I'm going to just stick with the first sentence and assume you made a large continuous typo afterwards.