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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    Yeah, that's a good analogy. Humans should kill sharks cause we need their space (let's move into the ocean) and resources (do you realize what a staggeringly large amount of fish humans take from the ocean)?

    We're not competing, in the ecological sense, with sharks, so this is not a matter of scarcity of resources or space. We just want to be able to splash in the waves when we'd like without fear.
    what are you talking about? sharks like killing seals... humans have been known to kill the hell out of seals... sounds like a competition to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northendcanyon View Post
    No I say we focus on saving humans first, then cuddly land animals and then if there is room on the spaceship for aquariums we will save the food species first. .
    Your logic is flawed, that's not even a remote possibility. Thats what cracks me up about any of this type of debate. As the global population races towards 9 billion(isn't that the estimated pop at current rates in 25 years) we will be fighting wars over water way before we're ready to colonize space. And self-loathing is off the mark, I'm just a bit of a misanthrope.

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    Guys, the planet will become enveloped by the sun in a few billion years anyway so why bother conserving anything? I mean, why bother being a parent to your children? Why bother wiping your bum after you ****? Why bother signaling your turns on the highway?

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    That's the way to really embrace your fate. I like to see that you're coming around.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    Your logic is flawed, that's not even a remote possibility. Thats what cracks me up about any of this type of debate. As the global population races towards 9 billion(isn't that the estimated pop at current rates in 25 years) we will be fighting wars over water way before we're ready to colonize space. And self-loathing is off the mark, I'm just a bit of a misanthrope.
    You don't think there will be room on the space ship for the aquariums? It will be tight and hard to get off the ground initially, but I Figured once in space the weight would help with inertia once we got up to light speed.

    To be only slightly more serious for a moment, there's a ecological term called carrying capacity. Environments balance themselves out. If there's not enough water for humans our population is going to go down. It seems scary but it's going to be mostly 3rd world people that die, just like how they are dying of starvation right now. I also know that I can desalinate my own water on a residential scale and that it is already done on an industrial scale and there's plenty of saltwater on the planet. And I know the media and national geographic like to scare people because it increases their ratings and therefore quarterly profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    what are you talking about? sharks like killing seals... humans have been known to kill the hell out of seals... sounds like a competition to me.
    Ever hear of the Marine Mammal Protection Act? That's what, you know, led to the surge in seal numbers on the cape, presumably leading to the increased numbers of great whites, which in turn fueled this discussion you're contributing such wisdom to.

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    Every animal has its place in the food chain. When you kill all the bigger fish, the smaller fish become too abundant and then eat too much of the even smaller things like the phytoplanktin. Phytoplanktin are responsible for over half of the photosynthetic activity on Earth(you know, the stuff that creates oxygen for you to breathe). So basically, if you wanna breathe air on land, preserve the marine life in the ocean.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    Ever hear of the Marine Mammal Protection Act? That's what, you know, led to the surge in seal numbers on the cape, presumably leading to the increased numbers of great whites, which in turn fueled this discussion you're contributing such wisdom to.
    yeah, Im aware of it. but Im not sure how you made the jump to posting this to the banter I posted? lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFitz73 View Post
    yeah, Im aware of it. but Im not sure how you made the jump to posting this to the banter I posted? lol.
    F-in A man, my bad. Lack of vocal inflection gets me every time. SI needs a color coded posting system where you can indicate your true sentiments behind each post. I think PJB's current tirade on the "This is the end" thread would have to be coded red.

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    oh and one other thing I forgot to add. What's with these idiots swimming with sharks without a cage on some of these "documentaries"? They remind me of that guy in Alaska who had pet names for all the bears and ended up getting eaten(clearly he was mentally ill). The discovery channel seems to be encouraging the mentally ill to dive in the water with sharks without a cage. Another example of a silly ratings grab. Their having people risk their lives for absolutely no reason basically. It serves absolutely no purpose. When are people going to figure out that wild large predators are extremely dangerous? I think the survival instincts of humans are starting to disappear in some people because we've been out of the wild for too long.
    Last edited by shark-hunter; Aug 6, 2013 at 02:47 PM.