I'm not advocating one side over the other just giving my analysis of why I think the south would win today under certain conditions. PJB you are 100% right about the northern industry late in the civil war. Lee recognized this as well and knew defeat was inevitable.
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Aug 29, 2013, 07:59 PM #31
New York is one of the wealthiest cities on earth. They can get supplies if they lack them. That's just one example. There's plenty of money and resource availibility in the north.
The north has PLENTY of farms.
The mid-west power players are all from Liberal cities. They run the show.
Even the Jersey guys who fly confederate flags still have a soft spot for NJ. It's home......No one wants to see their homleand attacked.
Just because you can hunt and hang out in the woods doesn't make you tough. ANYONE can especially if they are forced to. It's friggin human nature.
Why does everyone assume every non-northern state loves the south ??? People from North Dakota don't fawn over Alabama. And their getting a taste of big time oil money. Their tastes might swing to the Yankee-finer-things-in-life
Most southerners can't read so I don't know what they are learning at tactical schools. Yeah, what are you talking aboot the same clowns who made bunkers for DECEMBER 21, 2012 ??? Ha, yeah better watch out for those guys!!
Roads ? They have dirt roads down there.
Aww man, here we went again. PUMP, I'm sending a few people down there to investigate your Jersey loyality......
And SUP, don't get angry, this isn't serious, at least I'm not being serious. I mean, what I'm saying is the truth but I'm doing it in a jovial way........
And that's it. Someone else stand up for the north for once........Jeez.........
Aug 29, 2013, 08:01 PM #33
This thread is out of hand. You guys really want to start your own country? Go ahead and see what happens. Abandon all treaties, trade agreements, military protection, rule of law, court system, legislative system, etc. Might as well just go all in and join the United States of Mexico. Have fun living in a lawless country! It might have worked when we had a few million people spread across millions of acres but good luck finding enough land to raise your own crops and firewood to warm your home when several million people have to do the same thing!
Grow up, you're not going to solve all of your problems by seceding (yes, that is how you spell it) from the Union. There's just as many redneck Republicans driving trucks and shooting guns north of the Mason Dixon line as there is south of it.
The class divide these days isn't about North vs. South, or black vs. white, it's rich vs. poor (i.e. - educated vs. uneducated). So stop harping on an issue that's 150 years old.
D@mn it's been a tough day at work...
Aug 29, 2013, 08:04 PM #34
Oh hey - just thought of this - as opposed to getting together in Deal, NJ for a forum reunion where we surf, drink, laugh, and hang on the beach, maybe we should get together for the first annual Swell Info Forum Civil War Reenactment where we can further the arguments of our great, great, great grandparents. I mean, cotton labor is still such a hot topic.
I call I get to be General Sherman.
I'm not internet bragging. There's no one down there that scares me the way people do up here.
I used to bust on the South to my probation officer in Currituck County......yeah Currituck County not transplant Dare County. The real south.
I don't know where you southerners get this idea from. NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IS AFRAID OF YOU GUYS. NOBODY. You guys have created this paradigm and it is COMPLETELY exclusive to y'all. You guys romanticize yourself like some Wild West cowboys.
But you wouldn't get out of your car in North Philly. I know that for a fact.
Aug 29, 2013, 08:07 PM #36
With the way things are going right now I think we're going to have to worry more about a East vs. West or what might turn into WW III more than another Civil War here at home. We might need to all band together one day. If we pull the trigger on Syria you can bet your ass things are going to escalate quickly. You guys ready to pick up arms and put your desk jobs and 401k's on the back burner? I doubt it...
If the war comes to our doorstep, how many domesticated men / women are going to be willing to join the fight? This is the question we should all be asking, and if you look around, people are too wrapped in updating the Facebook page with what they ate for lunch and Twittering each other with their smart phones to care. I guess we'll find out soon enough won't we...
Aug 29, 2013, 08:08 PM #37
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