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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You are paranoid, not because you question the government's actions, but because you think everything and everyone in the world is out to get you. You will post some interesting ideas here and there, then ruin it with comments about corporations owning the world governments. The government is corrupt, that I agree with. The issue, is that they don't need corporations to make them corrupt. Politicians do that on their own. If anything, it is the governments that own the major corporations.
    they're one and the same. very blurred line there

    everything is schemed when it comes to how big corporations and the gov deal with each other. for instance, look at the hand they both have in the national debt. created by design with global competition in mind. like the old Hebrew saying: if you owe the bank $10, the bank owns you. if you owe the bank $1,000,000 you own the bank.
    Last edited by OceanO; Sep 10, 2013 at 02:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You are paranoid, not because you question the government's actions, but because you think everything and everyone in the world is out to get you. You will post some interesting ideas here and there, then ruin it with comments about corporations owning the world governments. The government is corrupt, that I agree with. The issue, is that they don't need corporations to make them corrupt. Politicians do that on their own. If anything, it is the governments that own the major corporations.
    Hmmm, I didn't know the gov owned Monsanto. If they do, then why does Monsanto give politians bribes uhum I mean lobby them to carry forth their agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Yeah, I would say there is more evidence of resource and energy as the reason for war. The US is an energy hog of a country, and we cannot support the demand currently. All the anti-nuke hippies fight against building reactors, while the environmentalists fight deep sea oil drilling. The only other current option is to import resources.
    in a true conspiracy, wouldn't the govt just make these people disappear? that seems must easier to me than these elaborate plans we keep hearing about.

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    brew hit it pretty solid. govt scares me way more than corporations do. Corps at least have competition to keep them in line but govt has nothing.

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    brew hit it pretty solid. govt scares me way more than corporations do. Corps at least have competition to keep them in line but govt has nothing.
    competiton? think you'd be surprised at who the majority share holders are of all the major corporations. the same names come up over and over. there is a reason the wealthiest 1% have 95% of the wealth in this country.

    but i agree, the gov is scary seeing as it's used as the strong arm of corporate america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    You are paranoid, not because you question the government's actions, but because you think everything and everyone in the world is out to get you. You will post some interesting ideas here and there, then ruin it with comments about corporations owning the world governments. The government is corrupt, that I agree with. The issue, is that they don't need corporations to make them corrupt. Politicians do that on their own. If anything, it is the governments that own the major corporations.
    first off I don't think everyone is out to get me, (and not just me but the rest of humanity that are not in the elite club) just a select few. these select few have influenced governments for centuries. they own much of the worlds corporations too.

    straight from the horses mouth to your computer screen brew. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8zWLOnNe6o

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    America is going down the toob,but its still the best country to live in.it is a police state in certain parts of America,typically the tri state area.i cant leave my town without seeing 6 cops.other parts like Washington,certain towns have like 10 cops.

    Vietnam was started off a lie,the gulf of Tonkin incident.the war was never meant to be won,just sustained.

    funny in Ukraine,they toppled the statue of the general who saved them from the Nazis and napoleon.its messed up everywhere

  9. The idea of rising up and starting civil/world wars only to start the cycle of corruption over again is silly to me.

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    [QUOTE=OceanO;188966]i tell people about this all the time and they look at me like im crazy. ok...well, they were already looking at me like im crazy, but most people refuse to believe this. our military does some scary, crazy-ass sh!t.

    i'd bet anything the CIA had a hand in the Syrian WMD propaganda incident. or it's all made up, crisis actors and all.

    syria is about the tired old argument 'my god is better than yours.' complicating the issue and guaranteeing
    more bloodshed is the fact that russia will not let go of its only mediterranean port (latakia).