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    Quote Originally Posted by chicharronne View Post
    you're wrong about the 70's. We'd still be in VN If it wasn't for us getting our heads busted, and our parents wouldn't have been on our side. I was with some GIs on a fort and the MPs were merciless. I got away with minor injuries. My dad used to say "line em up against the wall" when it was someone elses kid. He went off when he found out a grunt with a stick tried to bust his baby boys head in.
    Honestly that war was a lose-lose and it ended because we got tired of getting our asses kicked not because of a bunch of stubborn people with signs that chanted on the streets. You'd like to think you had something to do with that and maybe in some small way you felt like it changed something, but the US lost that war from get-go, sometimes you just have to count your losses and move on, which is what I believe really happened there. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion.

    It's almost like when yell at the TV for your favorite team to do something and they end up doing it by coincidence and you feel like you as the fan had something to do with that victory (or loss, either or). As a fan it feels good to think you in some way influenced the outcome, but reality is, you're just a dude on a couch with a beer yelling at a TV.
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    To win Vietnam we would've had to kill every member of the NVA and Viet Cong(which was impossible) in my opinion. They were resolved and had been fighting for generations. Funny thing too is the Vietnamese people were fighting for the same thing we fought for, independence from a colonial power. Ho Chi Minh appealed to the United States way before they were seeking support from Russia. He was actually present at Wilson's 21 points speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    To win Vietnam we would've had to kill every member of the NVA and Viet Cong(which was impossible) in my opinion. They were resolved and had been fighting for generations. Funny thing too is the Vietnamese people were fighting for the same thing we fought for, independence from a colonial power. Ho Chi Minh appealed to the United States way before they were seeking support from Russia. He was actually present at Wilson's 21 points speech.
    It would have been impossible to win without dropping a nuke to end it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawnPatrolSUP View Post
    It would have been impossible to win without dropping a nuke to end it all.
    Fair point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    Fair point.
    Although, without the VN war we wouldn't have some of the greatest music or classic movies of it's time that was focused around that war, so at least something good came from it, it wasn't all bad I suppose hahaha
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    Agree 100%...so influential on American culture.

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    i tell people about this all the time and they look at me like im crazy. ok...well, they were already looking at me like im crazy, but most people refuse to believe this. our military does some scary, crazy-ass sh!t.

    i'd bet anything the CIA had a hand in the Syrian WMD propaganda incident. or it's all made up, crisis actors and all. it is a proxy war after all. was destined to escalate. this is what it's really about.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/it-s...yrian-pipeline

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    our guys got contaminated as well. some found undamaged shells and made necklaces out of them.
    DU is how our Nuke power masters get rid of waste.
    http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/...tion_KEY=12406

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    how long before there's video of Syrians blowing something up here? they should have waited for now to Bostonize us.