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    More than likely lead and mercury poisoning. DU is not much more toxic than Pb or Hg, and use in only a fraction of the shells/armor. However, conventional heavy metal shells were used day there, and probably ended up being inhailed due to the dry/arid climate. No moisture to hold the particulates down. The person that made that probably knows little about heavy metals, and just jumped on the word uranium.

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/features/du/du_qaa.shtml

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    not so sure i ready to just buy whatever the promotions and lobbying arm of the nuke industry says. it's similar to the FDA, and look what they consider safe and reasonable. the IAEA was out in full force after Fukushima trying to convince the world it was no big deal. not a fan.

    regardless, Iraq was turned into a DU sponge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanO View Post
    not so sure i ready to just buy whatever the promotions and lobbying arm of the nuke industry says. it's similar to the FDA, and look what they consider safe and reasonable. regardless, Iraq was turned into a DU sponge.
    It isn't a nuclear lobbying group, it is a global nuclear scientific community that has studied radioactivity of DU. The half life even shows that DU is very low on the radioactivity scale. Anyways, I always trust scientific studies before I trust random Facebook photos. The neurotoxicity of mercury an lead is well known and thoroughly studied. These two metals were the most abundantly used in Iraq. I am not saying DU didn't have some part in it. I am just saying it was no worse than the cloud of other heavy metals released in that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    It isn't a nuclear lobbying group, it is a global nuclear scientific community that has studied radioactivity of DU. The half life even shows that DU is very low on the radioactivity scale. Anyways, I always trust scientific studies before I trust random Facebook photos. The neurotoxicity of mercury an lead is well known and thoroughly studied. These two metals were the most abundantly used in Iraq. I am not saying DU didn't have some part in it. I am just saying it was no worse than the cloud of other heavy metals released in that area.

    true for the most part. and you def can't trust random photos.

    side note: look at your avatar! lol. from DU, lead or mercury? maybe the pic Archy posted was just Chunk's kid?

    DU, mercury and lead suck. but it's more common for people to deal with lead and mercury in day to day life. doesn't sound as scary as Depleted Uranium. all bad stuff though.

    IAEA is the global pimp of nuclear power. it's a UN institution with offshoots like the NEI (Nuclear Energy Institute) and UNSCEAR (United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation). they all claimed Fukushima was pretty much no big deal and there was no present or future cancer danger or other ill effects from the disaster over there. they might provide some oversite (like the FDA) but thats not it's sole purpose. doesn't matter though. the US did all kinds of fu#ked up things to Iraq.

    if it's pruely a scientific community, then so are the ones set up by the tobacco industry and oil industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanO View Post
    i tell people about this all the time and they look at me like im crazy. ok...well, they were already looking at me like im crazy, but most people refuse to believe this. our military does some scary, crazy-ass sh!t.

    i'd bet anything the CIA had a hand in the Syrian WMD propaganda incident. or it's all made up, crisis actors and all. it is a proxy war after all. was destined to escalate. this is what it's really about.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/it-s...yrian-pipeline
    it's Al-CIAeda. the CIA infiltrated Al-Qeda in the late 70's to fight Russia in Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden was on CIA payroll well after 9/11. people refuse to believe this even though its all on public record.

    The war in Syria is just one part of a larger plan to destabilize the middle east which includes Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, and Somalia. these countries have not bought into the global banking system and therefore cannot be financially controlled.

    The CIA and the US military have been training radicalized Muslims in Turkey for over 2 years now to take over Syria, and all fingers point to the US backed Syrian rebels as being responsible for the chemical attack. The only reason Ovimit wants to invade Syria is because Assad is winning the fight against the rebels.

    I've said it before, and have gotten the tinfoil hat moniker, but the US government is not represented by the citizens, but the world banks and major corporations like Monsanto and Lockheed Martin. all the endless war of the past 20 years is a result of this, not some crazy Jihadists and their hate for Western lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanO View Post
    true for the most part. and you def can't trust random photos.

    side note: look at your avatar! lol. from DU, lead or mercury? maybe the pic Archy posted was just Chunk's kid?

    DU, mercury and lead suck. but it's more common for people to deal with lead and mercury in day to day life. doesn't sound as scary as Depleted Uranium. all bad stuff though.

    IAEA is the global pimp of nuclear power. it's a UN institution with offshoots like the NEI (Nuclear Energy Institute) and UNSCEAR (United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation). they all claimed Fukushima was pretty much no big deal and there was no present or future cancer danger or other ill effects from the disaster over there. they might provide some oversite (like the FDA) but thats not it's sole purpose. doesn't matter though. the US did all kinds of fu#ked up things to Iraq.

    if it's pruely a scientific community, then so are the ones set up by the tobacco industry and oil industry.
    Well, if you don't like that link, you can find a dozen others on the radioactivity of DU. It was the first one I found and had actual references.

    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs...ranium-eng.php
    http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiatio...aniumintro.pdf

    Don't be fooled by the fact that it is called uranium. It just isn't very radioactive. The main health issues spawn from the same neurotoxicity found in all heavy metals.

    As for what we did in Iraq, I agree that it was messed up. Unfortunately, that is no worse than what happens in any war. There is no such thing as civilized warfare. There are also no wars without excessive civilian casualties.

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    pb is the best chemical for dealing with hippies

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    Quote Originally Posted by archy View Post
    it's Al-CIAeda. the CIA infiltrated Al-Qeda in the late 70's to fight Russia in Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden was on CIA payroll well after 9/11. people refuse to believe this even though its all on public record.

    The war in Syria is just one part of a larger plan to destabilize the middle east which includes Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, and Somalia. these countries have not bought into the global banking system and therefore cannot be financially controlled.

    The CIA and the US military have been training radicalized Muslims in Turkey for over 2 years now to take over Syria, and all fingers point to the US backed Syrian rebels as being responsible for the chemical attack. The only reason Ovimit wants to invade Syria is because Assad is winning the fight against the rebels.

    I've said it before, and have gotten the tinfoil hat moniker, but the US government is not represented by the citizens, but the world banks and major corporations like Monsanto and Lockheed Martin. all the endless war of the past 20 years is a result of this, not some crazy Jihadists and their hate for Western lifestyle.
    yep. no tin foil involved though. these things are not a conspiracy. simple facts.

    first and foremost it's all about oil, gas and also whether or not they will continue to hinge off the US dollar. none of the players really give a sh!t for one second about WMDs or crazy arabs and or muslims.

    Iraq was really about... competition with China. we went in to keep Saddam from selling his sanctioned oil to China, who wanted to bypass the US dollar when trading oil. they do it anyhow now. they just don't have access to very much oil since we basically took Iraq's off the market, hence the massive spike in crude prices since 2003. it's all one big fu@ked up chess game.
    Last edited by OceanO; Sep 10, 2013 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Well, if you don't like that link, you can find a dozen others on the radioactivity of DU. It was the first one I found and had actual references.

    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/pubs...ranium-eng.php
    http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiatio...aniumintro.pdf

    Don't be fooled by the fact that it is called uranium. It just isn't very radioactive. The main health issues spawn from the same neurotoxicity found in all heavy metals.

    As for what we did in Iraq, I agree that it was messed up. Unfortunately, that is no worse than what happens in any war. There is no such thing as civilized warfare. There are also no wars without excessive civilian casualties.
    no no....i agree. the term 'depleted' means something. i just have a dislike of the IAEA being some sort of governing body. but your right

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    pb is the best chemical for dealing with hippies
    if weed was fully legal the cops could pacify people by pumping pot smoke at the protesters instead of pepper spray. what hippy would complain then? they might even start liking the cops.

    although this was no protest and no free pot smoke, something along these lines would be great too http://mynorthwest.com/11/2334601/Du...es-at-Hempfest