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  1. #11
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    Honestly, there's a lot of bad advice on here. The guy doesn't even have a winter suit and you're telling him to get a 4/3? You don't need a 4/3 around here. This isn't California. Buy a NEW 6/5/4 (don't buy a used wetsuit unless it's practically new and you don't mind being in someone elses piss bag - especially with a wintersuit). As soon as you start getting chilly in the 3 mil switch over to the 6/5/4. If you get a little warm just pull the hood back but it’s not like you’re gonna pass out from heat stroke. You can do a 5/4 in Rhode Island a lot easier because they get the Gulf Stream. There’s no Gulf Stream in Mass so don't cheap out on rubber. Also, I think you need go with the attached hood. I haven't seen too many serious winter suits with a detachable hood. Last two winter suits I have bought were the Xcel Infinity chest zip, both on Whiskeymilitia.com for $200. No complaints.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarter View Post
    That is MV's 7mil dive suit
    Haha! Nice

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkstink View Post
    Honestly, there's a lot of bad advice on here. The guy doesn't even have a winter suit and you're telling him to get a 4/3? You don't need a 4/3 around here. This isn't California. Buy a NEW 6/5/4 (don't buy a used wetsuit unless it's practically new and you don't mind being in someone elses piss bag - especially with a wintersuit). As soon as you start getting chilly in the 3 mil switch over to the 6/5/4. If you get a little warm just pull the hood back but it’s not like you’re gonna pass out from heat stroke. You can do a 5/4 in Rhode Island a lot easier because they get the Gulf Stream. There’s no Gulf Stream in Mass so don't cheap out on rubber. Also, I think you need go with the attached hood. I haven't seen too many serious winter suits with a detachable hood. Last two winter suits I have bought were the Xcel Infinity chest zip, both on Whiskeymilitia.com for $200. No complaints.
    RI gets the gulf stream??? ..the water may warm but does it really effect temp that much.. southern and northern nc pretty much tells the tape of where the gulf stream really effects the water temp.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream
    Last edited by swell5; Oct 1, 2013 at 01:56 AM.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by swell5 View Post
    RI gets the gulf stream??? ..the water may warm but does it really effect temp that much.. southern and northern nc pretty much tells the tape of where the gulf stream really effects the water temp.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream
    Umm ya I'm pretty sure Rhode Island feels the effect of the Gulf Stream. This is a quote from that article you posted: "Also, the Gulf Stream's proximity to Nantucket, Massachusetts adds to its biodiversity, as it is the northern limit for southern varieties of plant life, and the southern limit for northern plant species, Nantucket being warmer during winter than the mainland."

    Also, you can see that the current temp is about 65 in RI and 60 around the Boston area.
    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/natl.html

    Believe me, every time I travel to RI I'm amazed at how much warmer the water is. Same goes for Cape Cod.

  5. #15
    It's warmer than 60 in the EMass water today. Much warmer. I'll probs hit the PM sesh in a topper and baggies. Nice change from the 56-60 we've had here for a couple weeks. Mad cold Sept water. Forget that. All I heard for months was how great the swell and warm water of NE September is. Yawn.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIsurfer View Post
    Haha! Nice
    Sure as hell isn't my wetty but I think it would be a personal challenge to try and ride a wave with it

  7. #17
    TO ALL NEW ENGLAND SURFERS:
    The water temps were low to mid 60s today. In no universe does that necessitate anything more than a 3/2. You can probably have a ball in a cheap back zip too. Just the same, mitts, booties and hoods are so inappropriate when we still have "summer" temps in the water. It was mid 70s and sunny today. You belligerent penguins. Feel free to inhibit your paddling and therefore, your wave catching, while I do the backstroke into takeoffs in boardies and maybe a topper if it's brisk in the AM.

    All yous guys caught a case of "MV Surfer Syndrome". It's marked by excessive drapery of rubber on one's loins. If you're in Oak Bluffs, it's cool. Anywhere else in the 617/508/781/978 you're a stiff.

    I mean really, 5mm claws? 75 and sun with 63 in the water. Wow.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkstink View Post
    Umm ya I'm pretty sure Rhode Island feels the effect of the Gulf Stream. This is a quote from that article you posted: "Also, the Gulf Stream's proximity to Nantucket, Massachusetts adds to its biodiversity, as it is the northern limit for southern varieties of plant life, and the southern limit for northern plant species, Nantucket being warmer during winter than the mainland."

    Also, you can see that the current temp is about 65 in RI and 60 around the Boston area.
    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/natl.html

    Believe me, every time I travel to RI I'm amazed at how much warmer the water is. Same goes for Cape Cod.
    you're quoting temperatures from two totally different areas.. boston area is further north of course the water will be colder..about nantucket being warmer then the mainland.. the mainland is always colder during winter!! unless the water is dropping into the 20s it will always be that way.much like it is cooler during the summer months.. the water affects the air temp! look at the temp colors of the gulf stream.. it makes a turn as it comes off hatteras.. thats the part of the gulf stream that really warms the water. down in snc the water will be 84 but the northern part of hatteras could be in the 60s to low 70s.. upwelling also effects the northern hatteras area too but the temps are pretty different
    Last edited by swell5; Oct 2, 2013 at 01:25 AM.

  9. #19
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    getting back to the original post: get a solid 5/4 xcel drylock and you'll be good through the winter

  10. #20
    get a 14/2/11... with detachable 6/1/E.4 hood... chest zip, but button flaps around the butt... make sure you get the model with the pee already in the suit for added value.

    i got a low end excel 4/3 back zip last april and wore it all spring, and let it wear out good through the summer surfing nh and maine. sported rip curl boots with the separate toe (3mm) and 3mm gloves. no hood on the suit, but picked up a vest with a solid hood and to be honest, this facilitated more water getting into my suit than anything else. ditched the hood in may, and the boots and gloves in june. only in 90 degree blistering heat was it "too hot". thats when you actually put shorts on and take a dip. dudes were out in board shorts and rash guards for sessions but if you're gonna spend the full day in the water, might as well stay warm. actually wore the 4/3 all summer.

    picked up a new 4/3 flash bomb chest zip that i havent had to put on yet. still wearing that 4/3 and after patching a few worn spots its still my suit of choice. however it was grim and windy last week so i put on my hood/vest thing, with rashguard over it. not sure if that did anything other than make me feel stiffer, but I suspect it kept me a bit warmer.

    will run the 4/3 until december, at which time i will go skiing until spring. if poseidon conjures up some amazing conditions, I will drive to tropical RI to surf with the 4/3 where its a few critical degrees warmer... not sure if that will do the trick, but im cheap enough to force myself to stay in the water since i drove across new england to get there.