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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by cepriano View Post
    this forum is pretty funny.i never thought id see obummercare go to 24pages,bravo.our country is messed up,butt its still better than every other country.our gov is closed,but they are still passing bills to pay the workers who are on temporary leave.am i the only one who thinks wtf?!!
    no you are not the only one who thinks that is b.s. this is kinda what this whole 25 pages have been leading up to...

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    debating with PJB is kinda like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

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    Quote Originally Posted by cepriano View Post
    the people in charge of the american budget,where we can spend 6billion a month on war,but cant pay somebodies medical bills or not shut down.a few months ago we were ready to bomb syria,wtf happened?we had money for 2.5million dollar cruise missiles,but now the gov is on lockdown because republicans dont want affordable healthcare.i just want to live somewhere where i can smoke my pot in peace,
    The reason you or I can't smoke our pipes in peace or do the myriad of other things that seem so logically not to be anyone else's business is because we don't live in a Free country that is based on rationality and morality. we live in the polar opposite kind of society. That being A Socialist society. In a socialist society you "have to have" drug laws because The State has to protect YOU from YOURSELF, has to protect you from possibly harming "society". Because almost everything can be considered a "a danger to the Social fabric"... you're emails have to be read to again "protect the social fabric" your piss has to be tested again..."to protect bla bla" you get it. We have to wage wars overseas again to "protect you ..." WE have to give/print/create trillions of dollars to give to banks "to protect you..." you get my sideshore drift? its a racket that must be maintained with ever bigger Boogie men .... ever greater threats to "society"
    Last edited by babybabygrand; Oct 8, 2013 at 07:50 PM. Reason: forgot to cross my tees and dot my eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybabygrand View Post
    The reason you or I can't smoke our pipes in peace or do the myriad of other things that seem so logically not to be anyone else's business is because we don't live in a Free country that is based on rationality and morality. we live in the polar opposite kind of society. That being A Socialist society. In a socialist society you "have to have" drug laws because The State has to protect YOU from YOURSELF, has to protect you from possibly harming "society". Because almost everything can be considered a "a danger to the Social fabric"... you're emails have to be read to again "protect the social fabric" your piss has to be tested again..."to protect bla bla" you get it. We have to wage wars overseas again to "protect you ..." WE have to give/print/create trillions of dollars to give to banks "to protect you..." you get my sideshore drift? its a racket that must be maintained with ever bigger Boogie men .... ever greater threats to "society"
    I better clarify that our trend toward Socialism has nothing to do with Obama being in office and def didn't start on his watch. Hell I voted for the guy in 2008 bc I'm a peace-nik. I knew by 2009 he was worthless, and just want everyone to know that I believe we've been Socialist for a looooooong time before that poor fella inherited the mess he inherited.
    thank you

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    I also voted for Barack in 08, I drank the hopey changey cool aid, and I saw a pic of him bodysurfing at Sandy's, thought that 'cool'

    Hes the droney-strikiest, child-killingest Nobel peace prize winner evah!

    George Carlin said it best, itsa big focking club (of powerful people) and we aint in it!

    I wish I could take my tax money and donate to a local food bank instead of seeing it mismanaged by greedy warmongering focktards

    and I dont need drug laws, I'm smart enough to know myself. I cant stop eating cookie dough, Id do terrible with Bayer Corps cure for morphine addiction or the CIA's crack

  6. #266
    might be a good time to read the George Carlin quote in full, enjoy.

    "There's a reason for this, there's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It's never going to get any better. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you've got... because the owners of this country don’t want that. I'm talking about the real owners now... the real owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls. They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying. Lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right.
    They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting ****ed by a system that threw them overboard 30 ****in’ years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly ****tier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your ****in' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later 'cause they own this ****in' place. It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club. ...The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. ...And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue **** that’s being jammed up their assholes every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream, 'cause you have to be asleep to believe it."

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  8. #268
    Carlin was an entertainer.

    People in general are mentally lazy. Most of the kids in public schools don't want to learn how to critically think for themselves. And most of their parents are too uninterested to take real initiative to teach their children anything worthwhile.

    Take some personal responsibility. No one is preventing you from being smart or successful but yourself.

    Go take some college level science, math or engineering classes and tell me you don't need to critically think to get A's in those classes. An A represents the people who are willing to put in the effort, and those are the people that society rewards.

    It's just the way it is. Most of us are serfs from serf lineages. Doesn't mean you can't make something of yourself, it just means you have to work hard.

  9. #269
    this is why we need Obamacare.

    "We met Tommy Davis in our hospital's clinic for indigent persons in March 2013 (the name and date have been changed to protect the patient's privacy). He and his wife had been chronically uninsured despite working full-time jobs and were now facing disastrous consequences.

    The week before this appointment, Mr. Davis had come to our emergency department with abdominal pain and obstipation. His examination, laboratory tests, and CT scan had cost him $10,000 (his entire life savings), and at evening's end he'd been sent home with a diagnosis of metastatic colon cancer.

    The year before, he'd had similar symptoms and visited a primary care physician, who had taken a cursory history, told Mr. Davis he'd need insurance to be adequately evaluated, and billed him $200 for the appointment. Since Mr. Davis was poor and ineligible for Kentucky Medicaid, however, he'd simply used enemas until he was unable to defecate. By the time of his emergency department evaluation, he had a fully obstructed colon and widespread disease and chose to forgo treatment."

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1312793

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicharronne View Post
    this is why we need Obamacare.

    "We met Tommy Davis in our hospital's clinic for indigent persons in March 2013 (the name and date have been changed to protect the patient's privacy). He and his wife had been chronically uninsured despite working full-time jobs and were now facing disastrous consequences.

    The week before this appointment, Mr. Davis had come to our emergency department with abdominal pain and obstipation. His examination, laboratory tests, and CT scan had cost him $10,000 (his entire life savings), and at evening's end he'd been sent home with a diagnosis of metastatic colon cancer.

    The year before, he'd had similar symptoms and visited a primary care physician, who had taken a cursory history, told Mr. Davis he'd need insurance to be adequately evaluated, and billed him $200 for the appointment. Since Mr. Davis was poor and ineligible for Kentucky Medicaid, however, he'd simply used enemas until he was unable to defecate. By the time of his emergency department evaluation, he had a fully obstructed colon and widespread disease and chose to forgo treatment."

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1312793
    No, one emotional example is not why we need a disasterous, mismanaged bloated entitlement. So if you and PBJ signed up on day one, who were the other four dupes?