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    Well said Chavez, well said, you are a bit wiser than you try and let on eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChavezYChavez View Post
    BBG,
    I never referred to this country as free. But we sure aint enslaved. However, I am a slave to the wants and needs of the tree trunk between my legs. It still leads me astray even at the ripe old age of 50. I feel free when I'm surfing, f@cking, or riding my Harley.
    Seriously, it's hard to find a happy medium between freedom and having order in your individual life and in a society. Too much freedom can lead to complete disorder as PJB has pointed out. Too many rules and you have yourself have a police state as BBG and MIS have pointed out. i would love to get back to a local-based agrarian society. But as Paddington pointed out,there will be people, bad people who will want to come and take what's you have worked for. What then? How do you defend yourself? Your family? Your new society? Quite the conundrum.
    All great questions. I still battle with them. And I do realize you never said this was a Free country I was kinda pointing that exclamation point at the folks who do say that. my apologies....
    I'd start here if you care at all to read what Libertarians think about all the questions you propose : http://library.mises.org/books/Murra...0Manifesto.pdf Rothbard is a scholar of History and economics and paints a great picture (even though it was painted/written 30 years ago!)

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    and yep, real fun, if one grom questions the status quo and looks to voluntaryism (society, peaceful parenting, etc) as opposed to force, I feel as though my words weren't wasted

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChavezYChavez View Post
    Haha. We are enslaved? The only people alive today in this sissified country that can claim to be enslaved are all the people warehoused in our wonderful correctional systems. County/State/Federal.
    and I meant to applaud you on this very point...jesus have we some messed up muddled up shook up Laws in this country! sorry you had to find out the inside way. unless of course you were in there for violent reasons...but I doubt you were! keep spouting that knowledge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybabygrand View Post
    All great questions. I still battle with them. And I do realize you never said this was a Free country I was kinda pointing that exclamation point at the folks who do say that. my apologies....
    I'd start here if you care at all to read what Libertarians think about all the questions you propose : http://library.mises.org/books/Murra...0Manifesto.pdf Rothbard is a scholar of History and economics and paints a great picture (even though it was painted/written 30 years ago!)
    I'll take a look after work. Thanks. Which reminds me. I'd better get out of this office and back out before the Super comes back from lunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItStop View Post
    and yep, real fun, if one grom questions the status quo and looks to voluntaryism (society, peaceful parenting, etc) as opposed to force, I feel as though my words weren't wasted
    words are never wasted MIS! remember how we learned in Anarchy School how words turn into unicorns that us free-thinking-hippies can ride off to our Utopia on!! giddy up!

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    love unicorns
    http://deadspin.com/unicorn-mask-wea...rk-f-825617644

    ..... we felt obligated to seek out a photo and some more information. Little did we know we'd be discovering an odd cult of unicorn mask-wearing porn stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybabygrand View Post
    haha!
    I plan on saving my run with heroin til when I'm pretty near to death in my 70s and don't give a damn about life and/or prison time. Heroin is to dull pain. (did ya know the germans invented it as a cough suppressant?) I'm not in any of that kind of pain. I never wanted "success" in music.. Some things you do just because you love it so much you'd die without it. Music, in a world increasingly devoid of creative outlets, has been that for me. Surfing has taken the place of that. So has discussing the issues that we are now discussing. Thanks for the feedback. It's been real fun, No foolin
    Heroin's not just aboot pain relief. It's EUPHORIC as hecks. And just because MIS-13 thinks you guys know EVERYTHING, I'll point out that diacetylmorphine was actuually first alkalized in London in 1874. It didn't get much accolades until Dr. Dreser, working for the Bayer Company in Eberfeld, Germany, started researching it in the 1890's.
    Bayer subsequently released heroin for commercial sale

    Heroin comes from the German medical term "heroisch" meaning, " powerful; extreme; one with a pronounced effect with small dosage." Hell yeah. You should start, BBG. With today's complete lack of musical talent a little heroin might shoot you to the top.

    Hey BBG and MIS-13 are you guys hipsters? Like, do you wear tight T-shirts(stripped), tight jeans and beanies. Oh shoot, did you guys catch STATE PROPERTY on BET last night. Aww hells yeah fool. Beenie Siegel runnin' friggin Philly with that cracker Baby Boi. Ya know what it is that I be sayin' ? I cried at the end when Beenie got locked-up

    Maybe I'm seeing things, AGAIN, but didn't Mr. Chavez agree with things I said. Let's see he gave you guys one nod and gave me two nods. Yet you praise him, but call me stupid? I'm one of Chavez's deciples, you Nancy Drew Hardy boys. Some day I'm going to be able to handle Jack Daniels just like him. Oh, you anarchists probably have been around long enough to know that Chavez is a tough cookie and he don't take no sass. Ohh, I get it, you're rebels but still know when to show resepct to the right people. I get it. But, but, MIS-13, I thought I was violent?? Where's my respect ???

    And instead of contstantly mentioning how stupid I is, and how I can't debate someone of your stature, MIS-13, accept my challenge next September. Nahh, I reckon you'll just let that fade away into the land of the forgotten. I dig it, Ponyboy.

    DO you realize I bust on your ideas.........but you make personal insults at me that have no connection to these "debates" of yours. My mom cried the other day when she heard you called me, "Butt-hurt dumb."

    Let's test my math skills that I learned at THE PHILLIPS ACADEMY in ANDOVER,MA: Chavez gave youse guys, operating as a team, One Nod vs Two Nods for me............So I win 2 to 0.5(there's two of you, you have to share that one nod.)

    You guys can't mess with someone educated at THE PHILLIPS ACADEMY.

    Awww, you guys, I didn't attend THE PHILLIPS ACADEMY in ANDOVER,MA........that's a snooty boarding school for the country's elite. Good Lord, right, Wayne.

    I'm pretty sick today, and I passed on the waves that break upon on shores today. I don't know how I feel aboot it. And then I have some hipster dude, from friggin Hawaii, giving me the business. Jeez, what a day. I have no energy and I really wanted to ride waves of anger today. Wish I had some heroin, right BBG. I'd be surfing wave then. OH, do you know what cures the common cold? I do. Crack. I'm serious. It will decongest you and make you feel a little odd(after your bugging comedown) but you won't feel nearly as ill. I swear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItStop View Post
    love unicorns
    http://deadspin.com/unicorn-mask-wea...rk-f-825617644

    ..... we felt obligated to seek out a photo and some more information. Little did we know we'd be discovering an odd cult of unicorn mask-wearing porn stars.
    dude, you can see that I'm wearing a mask??? creepy (hahahahaha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington Jetty Bear View Post

    Hey BBG and MIS-13 are you guys hipsters? Like, do you wear tight T-shirts(stripped), tight jeans and beanies.
    I'm from the south...so that means I make love, surf, sleep and eat in my JORTS! wait that sounded bad...