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  1. #61
    brew that's like a German suggesting a holocaust and then citing Hitler. Just because it has been done doesn't make it right, or the answer to the welfare situation. Stop talking me into how crazy you are, I'm already convinced. I don't even like IPA. There.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    forced sterilization targets the innocent and tramples on all rights. war, depending on the cause, does not always do so. believe it or not, not all wars are bad, more a necessary evil.
    Wars fought to "defend" a nation of fat and uneducated hillbillies from an "ism" that they don't understand and couldn't properly define if they had a tele-prompter in front of them, is just business as usual. Replace Terrorism with Communism and you have the Cold War and our foreign policy "threat" since the 1950s. War is just State-Sanctioned murder. Nothing necessary about that at all. My stepmom is from Russia. Had Bush or Obama been in office in the 1980s and allowed to run amok like they have been, and the population been as eager to go to war for ideology as some are now, she might not be alive today.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by brewengineer View Post
    Again, why does anyone need to have 8 children? Selfishness? Pride? Boredom? Why does a rural area need to be populated by more humans?
    I think the rural family farm model and the urban/suburban married professional model are quite different cases. In the urban case with expectations of expensive clothing, college tuitions etc, more kids = economic strain. In the rural case, it can work out quite differently, an more kids can be advantageous, even necessary.

    The professional couple probably doesn't have acres of crops and livestock to tend to. There are advantages in some cases to have lots of helping hands at certain times of the year..i.e. planning, harvesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    forced sterilization targets the innocent and tramples on all rights. war, depending on the cause, does not always do so. believe it or not, not all wars are bad, more a necessary evil.
    I can dig that answer. Although I'm not sure that unfettered, unrestricted reproduction is a "right" in all places or circumstances - does my right to reproduce trump your right to eat, in the event the two rights conflict with one another? I never said all wars are bad because that's pretty obviously not the case.
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    buck vs bell was in 1927
    women were just granted the right to vote like 7 yeas prior via the 19th amendment, id like to think we have advanced since then.....

    on a comedic side note....


    Have you ever seen the man show where they get women to sign petitions to end women's suffrage?
    They actually convince women to sign a petition to give up their rights to vote. They say 'women are suffraging all over the place, end the suffraging!"

    I couldn't make this up, a youtube search will yield dozens of examples of people convincing women to give up their right to vote.

    I bet if we promised them a 10$ gift card to Ross, they would sterilize themselves.

    seems like a good start....


    did I go too far? Im trying to make lite of this eugenics thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItStop View Post
    buck vs bell was in 1927
    women were just granted the right to vote like 7 yeas prior via the 19th amendment, id like to think we have advanced since then.....

    on a comedic side note....


    Have you ever seen the man show where they get women to sign petitions to end women's suffrage?
    They actually convince women to sign a petition to give up their rights to vote. They say 'women are suffraging all over the place, end the suffraging!"

    I couldn't make this up, a youtube search will yield dozens of examples of people convincing women to give up their right to vote.

    I bet if we promised them a 10$ gift card to Ross, they would sterilize themselves.

    seems like a good start....


    did I go too far? Im trying to make lite of this eugenics thread
    Spot on. No one ever lost money betting on the ignorance of the general American populace. Steve Allen's 'Man in the Street' interviews, Leno did the same thing & it just gives glaring evidence that this is a nation of yahoos.

    What else could possibly explain the elected officials, the mas public support for NSA examining your private correspondence, the support for wars that make absolutely no friggin sense on any level other than the abrogation of our domestic civil rights & more death to brown-skinned peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee View Post
    What else could possibly explain the elected officials, the mas public support for NSA examining your private correspondence, the support for wars that make absolutely no friggin sense on any level other than the abrogation of our domestic civil rights & more death to brown-skinned peoples.
    I've been wondering about this myself for about 10 years now. Its really the mystery of our times, if you ask me.

    Is ignorance responsible for the acceptance of this state of affairs? Responsible for the promotion of it? Or both?
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    where do they come from?
    American families, American homes and American cities, they sure dont drop through a membrane from another reality

    George Carlin explains it best in his why I dont vote bit, I would link, but I dont want more points
    Last edited by MakeItStop; Oct 15, 2013 at 12:32 AM.

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    Here part of it
    That is one thing you might've noticed I don't complain about: Politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. But where do the people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from american parents and american families, american homes, american schools, american churches, american businesses and american universities. and they're elected by american citizens. This is the best we can do, folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out! If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, if you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you are gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders. The term limits ain't goinna do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So maybe, maybe, maybe it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here. Like... the public. Yeah. The public sucks! There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody. "The public sucks, f*ck hope!". F*ck hope. Because if it's really just the fault of these politicians then where are all the other bright people of conscience?

    : On election day... I stay home. I don't vote. F*ck'em, f*ck'em! I don't vote. Two reasons, two reasons I don't vote: First of all, is meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. The Shot they shuffle around every 4 years, *pfff* doesn't mean a f*cking thing. And secondly I don't vote because I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain.

    People like to twist that around, I know. They say: "Well, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain"; but where's the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest, incompetent people and they get into office and screw everything up... well, you are responsible for what they have done. You caused the problem; you voted them in; you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who did not vote, who in fact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have every right to complain as long as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with.

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    you guys sound surprised by all this. Read the bible. Last book is were we are in this world. Do not be scared. Jesus is the only way out of this mess. One clue your final stop has two choices. Pick the right one and be free. I cannot say this word enough JESUS.Was this a hijack ,nah it is the TRUTH.