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    I work with an old electrical engineer. He is always telling me about the good ole days. He says there was a time that welfare wasn't handled by the gov't. It was handled by local charities and churches, and they handled things on a case by case basis. If you were a menace to society, guess what? No help for you. Now it's all through the government and it's abused to no tomorrow. I'm not a republican, far from it, but I seriously say F**K 'em all, you don't work, you don't eat. I'm talking about food stamps, section 8 housing, medicare, etc. $1+ TRILLION / year that we can't afford. Welfare is fine and dandy if you have money to give out. We don't.

    Ok, I'll even go deeper. Walmart. The single largest collector of EBT dollars. Uncle sam prints this EBT money, to be used by the pond scum of society, at a business that doesn't pay a living wage, to sell chinese and middle eastern (made in something something 'stan) goods. Where do the EBT dollars go? It's pretty simple. 1. Some undeserving person's bowel system. 2. A giant crooked corporation, and 3. TO CHINA. Sounds like a trickle down event to me... right?


    That, and turning around to address the $1+ trillion / year war that we are floundering around in, we MIGHT have a shot.

    Cheers. See you boys in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandblasters View Post
    you should look at the infant morality rate you will be blessed with 72 virgins allahu akbar cock sukers.
    Yah, those immoral infants are getting out of hand.

    (ok, that's a joke, slip the safety back on your AK....)

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    Lee, Brew would be opposed to stopping wars. they are great population control devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandblasters View Post
    you should look at the infant morality rate as well, might put something in perspective in which the countries are red or higher. btw the world isnt over populated, if you think it is go kill your self and do yourself a service. even better im going to start a company fire squad on demand. when you feel like you or your family is over popin the world have no fear fire squad on demand is here. you have to pay for the bullets and transportation free. you will be blessed with 72 virgins allahu akbar cock sukers.
    Dude, you and I are living very different worlds. Sure, the US growth is much lower, but we also lead as energy users. We need global population reduction, not just in the red countries.

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    The welfare & the entitlement programs are way outta hand, no dispute there. But it's the politicians that have made it so; they want the votes & they'll trade your ever-increasing tax dollars for underwriting the entitlement programs to get those votes. They'll also turn around & blame "the wealthy" (whatever the heck that is anymore) for the nation's ills.

    Want to know where all of this has its roots...? No, no, not Marx or Lenin or socialist hoo-hah.

    France. 1785. The French Revolution was the result of ticked off people who were hammered by ever-higher taxes, skyrocketing food prices, a sense of elitism / exclusivity from the ruling class, endemic corruption amongst the government, a war that drove the country deeply into massive debt & starving poor people. France was the premier economic power of Europe in the 1770's. By the 1785-ish range, they were broke & failing quickly.

    Result in today's America...? Well, modern politicians are a lot things, mostly bad, but they ain't stoopid. They read the history books & they always make public policy to ensure their own sustainability.

    Ergo, welfare, food stamps & the rest. Because without those programs, where do you think those destitute, starving hundreds of thousands of people will end up? Well, in France they rioted. Big-time. Bread prices went up 67%, people couldn't afford bread, they rioted. And they ended up on the front steps of government as well as in front of the homes of the haves. And the rest, as they say, is history.

    Modern-day pols want no part of that. If they abolished food stamps, welfare & the rest of it, they'd actually have to do their jobs, i.e, improve the schools & the general economic climate for business in the USA. And we all know that's pretty unlikely. People, without free food & other 'free' things from the government would have only the other option to turn to; that's the option that scares the pols to death.

    So, the pols of both political parties publicly flog the programs for waste & mis-management but they always fund those programs.

    I'm not siding with anyone or any position; that's just the historical perspective as to why this country is doing what its doing with those programs to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Lee, Brew would be opposed to stopping wars. they are great population control devices.
    Don't be ignorant. There is no need for anyone to die if you stop the problem before it becomes a problem. I guess you feel Haysus gave you the right to spread your DNA all across the world. I am discussing a real problem here and possible solutions. You can ignore it for now, but our way of life wont last forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Lee, Brew would be opposed to stopping wars. they are great population control devices.
    Unfortunately it's the hardest working Americans that go get shot at while the scum sits back and enjoys the fruits of freedom. One of my best friends is out there babysitting a machine gun as we speak.

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    whoa whoa whoa. you talk about radical sh!t like forced sterilization and mandated 1 child policies but have issues with WAR. That a great population control effort because it limits the amount of young males in the population. kinda of like buck season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leethestud View Post
    Unfortunately it's the hardest working Americans that go get shot at while the scum sits back and enjoys the fruits of freedom. One of my best friends is out there babysitting a machine gun as we speak.
    lee my friend. ive got a theory on that issue that makes archy look rational.

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    break it out, Red.