I think my favorite thread on this forum thus far was the one where everyone rated last winter's wave quality on the whole from 1-10. It not only brought up an interesting debate about wave quality, it also brought up the issue of how surfers define the seasons (meterological versus calencar versus personal 'feel').

Last winter, no matter how you define the dates, was at least a 9/10 in my opinion. This fall, which i consider to be mid august to mid november (meterological calendar) in NJ has been the reversal of that- i'd give it at best a 2/10.

I realize my number is deflated b/c NJ got skunked on the columbus day swell, but would be interested if everyone else is equally bummed about the lack of waves, and when you declare fall to officially start and end.