I'm thinking bout ordering a fish from my local shaper. should i go twin fin or quad setup? also what dimensions should i get I'm riding a 5'11 fred rubble now and i gotta say it aint the best board I've bought. I'm 6'2 and weigh 175 how big should i say? also what is a reasonable volume so i don't sink the thing haha
Twin vs. quad depends completely on what you want to do with the fish. The shaper should be able to help you with volume. 5'10" x 21" x 2 1/2" would probably be a typical dimension for someone your size of average ability riding the typical sized waves fishes excel in.
I've been riding a bunch of quad fishes the past few years and for many years before that I had a 5'10" twin keel deep swallow fish of the dimension above that I just rode to death. I still regret selling it.
I like the quads in most of the typical conditions we get on the beaches around here (short rides with quick turns back into small pockets, but I gotta say...on those rare days where the waves line up stomach to chest high, clean, open faced and walled up just coming at you demanding speed and drawn out turns....man I miss that twinny.
But yeah...if your gonna have one fish, i'd probably talk to the shaper about quad setups.
Last edited by mitchell; Nov 10, 2013 at 04:56 PM.
^^^^word. Figure out what you want out of the board, your ability and talk to shape man. I had fun with 5'10"s for a few years ( I'm 6'2" 190lb). I recently picked up a v2 stub 6'0" 21" 2.5" quad. I went a bit big for ultimate groveling ability. I put my k2.1 side bites in and holy sh*t this board works insane in normal waves too. I figured the board may have been a little clunky or weird. I was way wrong! High performance all the way.
Swallow tails just weird me out and need a lot of repair in my experience. I can't visualize the benefit of a swallow, idk. Ironically my first board was a swallow though.
rode my first quad groveler this summer. The tail is so wide on it, it wouldn't even work as a twin/trailer...quad was the only way it would turn. Still think a narrower tail with twin/trailer turns more easily, but the quad is good for glide.
I'm 6'/180 and the volume on my best fishes is around 35 cL. Anything over 36 cL and the extra foam in a fish's nose makes duckdiving an effort, but still doable.
use the volume calculators to get an idea for your weight. I like Lost's Guild Factor, but ymmv
Last edited by waterbaby; Nov 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM.
i am also 6'2 175 and i have a 5'10 21+ wide and 2 7/8" quad round nose fish and love it. its a groveling machine. ive ridden it in everything from ankle slappers to 6-8ft lighthouse (that was a sketchy day haha, still have the imprint of my ass in one of the pressure dings from falling off the top of the lip and onto the deck), its really fast and performs well. i just wish i had gotten it a little thinner. definitely recommend it. 1013120037.jpg
if you want a classic (read: "retro") style fish, at your height & weight, & given what you're riding now, i'd say something in the 5'8"-5'10"x20 1/2"-21"x2 1/2" range; it depends on preference, ability, & inclination. i'm 15lbs heavier than you & just ordered up a retro style quad fish from brian wynn at 5'8"x21"x2 5/8"...i'm 2" shorter & 15lbs heavier than you. my go-to board on a day to day basis is a 5'10"x20 3/4"x2 9/16" campbell bros octafish.
whether quad to twin keel is a decision only you can make & it depends entirely on what you want from the board. if you want the true '70s feel, get glassed-on double-foiled keels. if you want a more modern twist, go quad. quad is definitely going to be more responsive & make tighter radius turns, so if you surf a lot of sectiony beach breaks, that might be the better option. if you've got access to good lined up front side point breaks, twin keel would be a fun choice (i say front side b/c, IMO & experience, twin keel fish kinda suck on the back hand).
my too cents...Shaper would know best but seems like most people ride 'em a tad on the big side (myself included until I experimented with dimensions)
Retro twin or retro quad...don't be afraid to go short or a hair thinner to go with the extra width... 5'10 175-195lbs (depending on my work out to beer drinking ratio) ride a full figured 5'6 20'' 2 1/2 (29.5 liter-ish) and that feels both too long and floaty when i'm in the 170's
RNF twin or quad... ride a 5'9 20'' 2 1/2 (28.5 liter) feels good in the 170's and works even better the fatter I get