Ok, you know it's bad when june to beginning of august was better than sept to november. I have never seen a fall this bad consistency wise. 2 week flat spells in the middle of the fall repeatedly? This isn't late july. No hurricanes in the atlantic, which is almost unheard of. Now the season is over the people who are sane. lol Nature has a way of flipping patterns so you winter surfers will probably get a descent winter since it's been relatively flat for so long. I'm hoping it stays flat until late spring because if it does that spring summer and fall next year should be awesome.