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    Quote Originally Posted by seldom seen View Post
    I would guess those ships in the pic are empty, but the govt. definitely put soldiers at various distances from nuclear explosions(in other tests) to determine harm from radiation and such.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

    We def didn't give a fcuk about marine life when testing nukes.

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    The new sonar is super gnarly too, it will cause the Nitrogen and Oxygen that is dissolved in the tissues of marine mammals to come out of solution, aka form bubbles that grow with every passing sonar/sound wave, so the body tissue is being ripped from the inside by constantly growing air bubbles. Depth and therefore pressure also play a role in this process

    This process is called rectified diffusion and is torturous. The marine mammals will beach themselves to get out of the sound field that causes their insides to tear apart

    here is a link
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11894990

    more links:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16006604

    Gas bubble-associated lesions and fat embolism were observed in the vessels and parenchyma of vital organs. In vivo bubble formation associated with sonar exposure that may have been exacerbated by modified diving behavior caused nitrogen supersaturation above a threshold value normally tolerated by the tissues (as occurs in decompression sickness). Alternatively, the effect that sonar has on tissues that have been supersaturated with nitrogen gas could be such that it lowers the threshold for the expansion of in vivo bubble precursors (gas nuclei). Exclusively or in combination, these mechanisms may enhance and maintain bubble growth or initiate embolism. Severely injured whales died or became stranded and died due to cardiovascular collapse during beaching. The present study demonstrates a new pathologic entity in cetaceans. The syndrome is apparently induced by exposure to mid-frequency sonar signals and particularly affects deep, long-duration, repetitive-diving species like BWs. (beaked whales)
    Last edited by MakeItStop; Dec 11, 2013 at 05:59 PM.

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    Not just baby killers. But Job Creators as well. I posted this petition a while back.

    http://act.oceana.org/letter/montere...slI9d&rd=1&t=3

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    Whales and dolphins aren't the only things washing up dead from the sound blasts. Schools of mermaids have been washing up too. Most people haven't seen the mermaids because zagaffer collects them instantly.
    Last edited by Doug; Dec 11, 2013 at 08:54 PM. Reason: S

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    Don't mess with the mermaids! You will end up cursed, unable to catch fish or waves.

    Don't mess with the U.S. Armed Forces either. It is a gnarly tradeoff: homeland security v. marine mammal/oceanic health and wellness. Guess who wins.

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    ^^^^^^Not mermaids and whales? "But why manboy, why?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosemagoo View Post
    Are those ships empty and there as a test?? Otherwise they did the army equivalent of pulling the pin on a grenade and forgetting to throw the dam thing.
    No one was on board those ships during the test. I believe the photo was from one of the atomic bomb tests conducted at the Bikini Atoll in 1946. Other than nuke fallout, I don't think environmental impact was a major concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItStop View Post
    ....This process is called rectified diffusion and is torturous. The marine mammals will beach themselves to get out of the sound field that causes their insides to tear apart....
    This is interesting information about a very nasty and not well known effect of SONAR on cetaceans. Usually you read about how SONAR temporarily affects the mammals' hearing and behavior, causes disorientation, etc. The two articles aren't recent: 2001 and 2005.

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    You might be able to search for more recent info
    ....then again, the data might be buried/ignored/proprietary/Corzined, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeItStop View Post
    You might be able to search for more recent info
    ....then again, the data might be buried/ignored/proprietary/Corzined, etc
    Thanks for sharing those articles, MIS.