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    Stand with phil!!

    Collins. The dude hasn't had a hit in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Collins. The dude hasn't had a hit in a long time.
    One of the funniest things I remember about Phil Collins is when he presented a music award to U2 in the early 80's. The band was sitting at a pub in Ireland and they did a remote acceptance. Bono Said to Phil, "Phil Collins? Me Mum loves you! She has all your albums." I can't wait for U2 to give an award to some young upstart band and get the same treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka pumpmaster View Post
    Collins. The dude hasn't had a hit in a long time.

    thanks for not going there pumpmeister...


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    Quote Originally Posted by babybabygrand View Post
    thanks for not going there ...
    Well I’ll go there ..

    First, I want to preface this that I believe that all people warrant consideration and dignity as human beings, regardless of beliefs or life style choices.

    What I want to know is,
    1. Is the statement:
    “I believe _______ is a sin” hate speech towards those that do _______? To get the idea, fill in the blank with something like, gossip, slander, sloth, promiscuity, drunkenness, dropping in, etc.
    2. Why do people (in general) who do not seem to hold in esteem or believe the concept of “sin” or of a God who holds people accountable care what someone else says is “sin”?
    3. And more generally, why do people get so worked up about what people say about what they do? People are not God, and if He exists (or rather if one believes He exists), shouldn’t that be their concern, rather than what man says? There have been many threads where people get bent about what others say about what they do or how they live. I get that people do not like be judged, but why take some much stock in what is said on, as my bud says, a “surf predictn web site”?

    I don’t watch DD, and from what I understand this fellow Phil was responding to questions he was asked in a magazine interview, and has the right to express his opinion. He probably could have framed what he believed a little better, but he said what he said. I also realize that A&E has the right to fire anyone they want for any reason. But calling I think deeming what he said hate speech is a little over the top, especially when framed in everything else he has said.

    I do realize that hate crimes do happen and need to be dealt with, along with all crime, however, aren't most crimes fueled by hate, or an excessive selfishness, or a lack or concern for others?

    Personally, I’ve gone through life, had people say negative things and given me grief about what I believe or do, but it has never crossed my mind to invoke or unleash the authorities or make a public spectacle. We have become very thin skinned as a society.

    What you have to ask yourself is when will the thought police come knocking when you express what you think, if it is contrary to what they think, deem “politically correct” or appropriate?
    Last edited by capecodcdog; Dec 20, 2013 at 03:18 PM.

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    Peter Gabriel!!! Christ Pump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBSCREWBY View Post
    Peter Gabriel!!! Christ Pump!
    exactly. Phil who? Genesis dwindled into obscurity without Peter Gabriel. post-Gabriel, Trick Of The Tail was good, Wind & Wuthering was ok, and everything after was mediocre at best. Phil Collins is barely thread-worthy - a handful of pop hits to his credit.

    Gabriel, on the other hand, soared after Genesis...an iconic, innovative genius who produced multiple magnificent releases. he's still going strong with live performances that are epic, finely-crafted stage productions and every new release is a much-anticipated event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanna View Post
    exactly. Phil who? Genesis dwindled into obscurity without Peter Gabriel. post-Gabriel, Trick Of The Tail was good, Wind & Wuthering was ok, and everything after was mediocre at best. Phil Collins is barely thread-worthy - a handful of pop hits to his credit.

    Gabriel, on the other hand, soared after Genesis...an iconic, innovative genius who produced multiple magnificent releases. he's still going strong with live performances that are epic, finely-crafted stage productions and every new release is a much-anticipated event.
    I would hardly say that "Genesis dwindled into obscurity without Peter Gabriel." On the contrary, Genesis and moreso Phil Collins were huge in the early to mid-80s. He was everywhere. He appeared on Miami Vice several times. He also hopped on the Concorde following his Live Aid performance at Wembley in order to butcher some drumming for the reunited Led Zeppelin in Philly (WTF? He never heard WLL before?). He was as big as a Miley Cyrus or Kardashian at the time.

    That said, I agree with you regarding Gabriel and Genesis' output was clearly superior with him.

    When the sun beats down and I lie on the bench,
    I can always hear them talk.
    Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk.

    Regarding Duck Dynasty, my wife is a big fan and watches the show constantly. The other night she called me to the TV because they were in Hawaii (Uncle Si adopted the moniker of Magnum P Si) and were gonna take surfing lessons. They had them out on SUPs without a paddle. Predictably, they were pushed in to some small waves, struggled to stand up and then flailed around in the water some. Of course, later they all were complaining of how sore they all were etc. They didn't actually try to jump the shark but they clearly have at this point.

    As far as the controversy about what was said. In the grand scheme of things, it's really quite inconsequential stuff to be concerned about no matter what side of the "outrage" you're coming from. Remember, there's no such thing as bad ink in Hollywood. A&E and the Robertsons are gonna be laughing all the way to the bank...

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    I thought it was Phil McKrackin. Or Phillip McKrevis.

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