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    crazy board?

    does anyone know something about this board? not sure if I have ever seen something this conceptual that works. it's interesting.<br /><br />Danny T.jpg

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    I've seen dude ripping on these in the lineup. In most cases I was able to ask how they like it and all have said good things.

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    Can it grovel?? Any personal experience?

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    Last edited by Thewaternerd; Dec 20, 2013 at 01:33 PM.

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    I saw a kid shredding on chest high waves last week with something similar. Looks good for going real fast and launching airs and it looks forgiving on the landings with the angled nose.

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    i've never ridden one, but have had a few chances to fondle one & i don't think it would grovel real well...lots of rocker relative to its length. a solid stomach high + board, IMO. a replacement/alternative to the traditional good wave hpsb. as much of a board fiend as i am, i don't see a place for one of these in my quiver. i like what i've got filling that niche already & don't get to surf really good waves all that often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thewaternerd View Post
    Can it grovel?? Any personal experience?

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    these boards are interesting. if you think about it, only a certain portion of the modern shortboard is interacting with the surface of a wave. think about the last time you put your board on rail and did a hard cutback, only the top 2/3 of your board did the work. the remaining portion towards the nose was buried, and that's being generous. therefore, the nose of your board is aesthetic, not functional. the same when it comes to paddling/flotation. it's not always about total volume, rather, it's about where the foam is under your sweet spot of the board. this design is minimalist, yet high-performing. the same could be said about a mini-simmons or a fish, but the performance of those shapes doesn't match these Vanguard shapes...and that's where I get lost with my understanding how the shape works LOL. maybe because they are based off a thruster and the fish/simmons approach is strictly twin/quad. there's no substitute for the pivoting qualities and bite of the training fin, i suppose.

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    Mini Simmons and Fish are a lot thicker and wider thoughout. Giving it less of a shortboardy feel. Thats why they can go so short and still be super effective in smaller surf. Flat bottoms as well to maximize planning speed.

    Ive see people riding these in most size surf (the vanguards). They ride them small, like under 5'8" range. Ive only seen them set up as quads tho. No thrusters here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salt View Post
    these boards are interesting. if you think about it, only a certain portion of the modern shortboard is interacting with the surface of a wave. think about the last time you put your board on rail and did a hard cutback, only the top 2/3 of your board did the work. the remaining portion towards the nose was buried, and that's being generous. therefore, the nose of your board is aesthetic, not functional. the same when it comes to paddling/flotation. it's not always about total volume, rather, it's about where the foam is under your sweet spot of the board. this design is minimalist, yet high-performing. the same could be said about a mini-simmons or a fish, but the performance of those shapes doesn't match these Vanguard shapes...and that's where I get lost with my understanding how the shape works LOL. maybe because they are based off a thruster and the fish/simmons approach is strictly twin/quad. there's no substitute for the pivoting qualities and bite of the training fin, i suppose.
    i meant the bottom 2/3 of the board if doing the work. DERR

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    i've never ridden one, but have had a few chances to fondle one & i don't think it would grovel real well...lots of rocker relative to its length. a solid stomach high + board, IMO. a replacement/alternative to the traditional good wave hpsb. as much of a board fiend as i am, i don't see a place for one of these in my quiver. i like what i've got filling that niche already & don't get to surf really good waves all that often.
    It won't grovel well?? A modern "Planing" design with nearly 17' wide nose and tail widths and about the average thickness sounds like it would work pretty good... Idk tho, Definitely think personal experience would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njsurfer42 View Post
    i've never ridden one, but have had a few chances to fondle one & i don't think it would grovel real well...lots of rocker relative to its length. a solid stomach high + board, IMO. a replacement/alternative to the traditional good wave hpsb. as much of a board fiend as i am, i don't see a place for one of these in my quiver. i like what i've got filling that niche already & don't get to surf really good waves all that often.
    after checking out the video above/below, I would assume that this 'IS' a grovel board. Not so much for knee high slop, but surely not your step-up-pipe board.