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  1. #11
    You think the countries that are still fining sharks are gonna just throw the great whites back?

    And they most definitely do drop into the 40's in northern cali. I grew up there, spent many winters and springs (actually water temps colder in spring from the upwelling) in that water. Admittedly i dont know d!ck bout your guy's water over there. But i do know a great white can and will go pretty much where ever it wants. Although i have heard the atlantic whites feed on the bigger fish vs the pacific who eat the seals. However i still stick to my argument that the knocking off of the predetors in the oceans food chain has thrown the balance way off. And thats why you see the influx of prey animals.

    They have a shark tracker for the whites there? thats cool. they drop into the deep water when they leave like they do in the pacific? I live on maui now and they have a tracker site for the tiger sharks they've managed to tag. We've had a few incidents this past year.

  2. #12
    I do not think whites are effected by finning.. They were over fished in the 80's, but since then their #'s have risen steadily.

    The temp may dip in to the 40's, but it's not the norm. Check out the Norcal water temps for the coldest months.
    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/cpac.html

    Yeah. They started tracking sharks here 2 years ago. It's actually awesome.
    They seem to come to Cape Cod in the late Summer/Fall. Then head south and separate. But every year they all come back to the same spot. I's really interesting.

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    What I saw Monday was like a 99.9% positive id. The fin and tail were tell tale color and shape. I was staring right at it, without any chop or sets to obstruct or interrupt my view. It was an aggressive, b-line breach that extended about 15 ft, parallel to the shoreline directly in front of me. The water was murky and you couldn't see your feet while sitting. Nothing happened before or after at all. If I sensed that I was being checked out I would have calmly exited the water for sure. On a side note there was a huge body of striped bass around a week ago.

  4. #14
    If I was a big shark, I would have my dorsal fin shaped to look exactly like a pelican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenFlash35 View Post
    If I was a big shark, I would have my dorsal fin shaped to look exactly like a pelican.
    Did u ever smoke pelicans?

  6. #16
    That's nuts and your balls are way bigger than mine... I wasn't implying that you were wrong or making it up, just that it's rare. It is definitely possible and you seem to know what you saw.

    There was a body of bass that moved in. I was planning on cod fishing last week and ending up stopping and jigging bass all morning. Had to through them back (season's over), but it was fun. Latest in the year I've ever caught bass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    What I saw Monday was like a 99.9% positive id. The fin and tail were tell tale color and shape. I was staring right at it, without any chop or sets to obstruct or interrupt my view. It was an aggressive, b-line breach that extended about 15 ft, parallel to the shoreline directly in front of me. The water was murky and you couldn't see your feet while sitting. Nothing happened before or after at all. If I sensed that I was being checked out I would have calmly exited the water for sure. On a side note there was a huge body of striped bass around a week ago.

  7. #17
    They've already proven that great whites travel thousands of miles in the Pacific to mate and give birth. In fact the Hawaiian Islands is one of the areas they go to give birth.

    Probably more less the same scenario in the Atlantic... they mate in colder waters then travel south toward the Caribbean to give birth.

    Back about a year or so ago a guy was filming himself spear fishing in Sebastian when a great white all of a sudden just showed up out of nowhere.

    Actually just found the vid.... 3 min mark is when whitey shows up!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzPdUAOYWI

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by nynj View Post
    I do not think whites are effected by finning.. They were over fished in the 80's, but since then their #'s have risen steadily.

    The temp may dip in to the 40's, but it's not the norm. Check out the Norcal water temps for the coldest months.
    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/cpac.html

    Yeah. They started tracking sharks here 2 years ago. It's actually awesome.
    They seem to come to Cape Cod in the late Summer/Fall. Then head south and separate. But every year they all come back to the same spot. I's really interesting.

    Yeah whities are a trip man. They are cruisers. It helps that the only other known killer of whites are orcas. And when one white dies the rest in the area scatter.

    And if you look at that chart again, im from bodega bay. Spent 10ish years surfing those waters. Salmon creek was the go to. At one point it seemed we'd have a white attack every 2 years at salmon.
    Those are averages so you have to assume the water will range a few degrees plus or minus of those numbers, bodega bay being in the low 50's the temps would most definitely be in the upper 40's at least a handful of times a month. I didnt wear a 6/5/4 hooded wetsuit for no reason bu. Im not saying they hit east coast temps by any means. Sh!t you guys get snow on the beach. F that. I dont do cold well, thats why i moved to the islands.

  9. #19
    I know they dip, but the actual water temps stay above 50. You can go up to Oregon and they still stay in the 50's. Upwelling may occur and take down the surface temp, but Mr. Whitey spends little time on the surface. Under water temps say way more stable.

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    When there are aeals Thera are sharks- that aren't very hungry

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