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Mar 8, 2014, 01:29 AM #21Member
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- May 2012
Mar 8, 2014, 03:58 PM #22
Extremely flat, extremely wide boards... especially in the tail... with fins all the way back and out on the rail become very stiff when you start to add length, when compared to what you're used to riding. That's how you can go really short... it's what keeps them loose. This theory applies to all short, flat, wide designs, including retro fish. The deep swallow gives some relief on the fish, but reduced planing area and short rail line is the basic, foundation concept behind these kinds of boards.
I had a session on a 5-8 in nice 2ft @ 12 groundswell today. The mini caught waves almost like my 6-6 fish/shortboard hybrid. I'm thinking a 6-0 might be my go to size. Would still like an easier paddling board since I am a pretty big guy. Stoked on how it surfed. The speed blew me away! I'm shocked a board that small worked at all for me. Heading to the shaper soon. I'll update the thread when it's done.
Thanks for the contributions and sick board pics.
Mar 9, 2014, 11:18 PM #24
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- Jan 2009
- milton delaware
Boards that are 5.5 feet long, 18 inch noses, 22 inches wide, flat rockered with a 16" squared-off tail are at an extreme end of the board spectrum and surf like it. They catch anything resembling a wave, they fly down the line at the slightest hint of a walled up wave no matter how small, and they turn with a lot less control and precision, and with a wider radius than most other boards. They are a handful on a steep drop and in a wave with a critical pocket, which is exactly when you wont be riding one anyways. They also are a pain in choppy waves.
My verdict is I love them all summer long when we get day after day of knee-stomach high wind swell and calm glassy mornings. They eat that stuff up!
Fin setup - I had one with keel fins, and the second two are quads. I prefer the quads because I feel like the quad setup mitigates some of the poor turning qualities inherent in this shape of a board, while the keels sort of contribute to these boards tendency to not want to come around quickly in a turn.
I know a lot of people would just stay home or ride a longboard in tiny waves like this, but for me personally mini simmons make waves this fun when other boards don't, and we get a LOT of days like this in the summer:
Last edited by mitchell; Mar 10, 2014 at 12:33 AM.
Mar 9, 2014, 11:26 PM #25
Mar 10, 2014, 10:38 AM #26
Sick! All the feedback is really encouraging. I know some of the posters above suggested that I just get a fish, already have one and I love it just looking to try something new.
Mar 10, 2014, 09:14 PM #28
I know you..surf with you...time to get rid of that grande pesce
A mystic mini sim from jim dunlop is the right move..
I have a new one on the table as we speak
Any doubting thomases..check the footage from the above link of Richard kenvin