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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by goosemagoo View Post
    Back to the OP.

    Listen to Mr. Swell Info. He knows.

    Yes, a reef/point/inlet or any other significant structure will probably be better than the relatively straight sandbars a barrier island type beach usually has.

    Alternatively, scout around. Look down the waterline at high and low tides for sections of the beach that jut out a bit. Maybe 50-100yds wide. Keep an eye on that spot the next clean, small swell. Watch how the swell bends around it. If you have 2 miles of straight beach and this one section is different then the bottom contour has a good chance of being different too. Sections of the beach like that often don't have much of a trough, or none at all, between the outer bar and the beach and it refracts the long period swells just different enough to give you a make able wave.
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    Flat/straight beaches are notorious for close outs. A natural beach is generally not straight. It juts in and out. The straightness is from dumping sand/overdevelopment/destruction of marshes that naturaly replesnish sand.

    Here's a natural beach from cape cod, Unfortunately it's not really safe anymore due to sharks since the idiots won't relocate the seals or cull the sharks there. Fishing for sharks to control numbers is a good idea and getting ride the seals will cause the sharks not to come into shore like that. Their coming there for a reason. They smells the seals. It will probably take a few more attacks(a certainty) and in the next few years before the authorities act. I don't believe there was a shark attack for 60 years or so and now a few in the past few. Common sense.
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  2. #42
    For comparison purposes Bradley beach in NJ. The jettys are the only thing even causing any type of jutting out at all, otherwise that beach would be as flat as the edge of a paper.
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  3. #43
    Oh and difference where cape cod is developed vs. natural

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  4. #44
    Down here in the mid-atlantic and southeast, when you have miles of mostly featureless beach



    look for a setup like this



    I see a few potential setups here too



    There are better examples out there but you get the idea I hope.

  5. #45
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    Shark Hunter, you should move to The Great Lakes.

    Relocate the seals !! That's awesome.

    It's a dangerous world out there, Shark Hunter, but killing sharks and handing an eviction notice to the seals is a little extreme. Dude, sharks are supposed to be in the ocean and they shouldn't be killed just so you can surf without worry. Dude, the ocean is the domain of the seals and sharks. They belong there.

    Ahh, I remember this conversation from last year.

    Shark Hunter, humans aren't any more important than dogs or sharks. Everything has a right to exist on this earth.......even Mexicans.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood Jubleume View Post
    Shark Hunter, you should move to The Great Lakes.

    Relocate the seals !! That's awesome.

    It's a dangerous world out there, Shark Hunter, but killing sharks and handing an eviction notice to the seals is a little extreme. Dude, sharks are supposed to be in the ocean and they shouldn't be killed just so you can surf without worry. Dude, the ocean is the domain of the seals and sharks. They belong there.

    Ahh, I remember this conversation from last year.

    Shark Hunter, humans aren't any more important than dogs or sharks. Everything has a right to exist on this earth.......even Mexicans.
    You are soooo trolling with this. LOL I'm not even going to bother. Tuna is supposed to be in the ocean too and the open ocean is not our "natural" habitat so maybe we shouldn't fish either. LOL

    Are you emassspicoli? or Paddington? Or njshred? You guys all have a similiar posting style.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by goosemagoo View Post
    Down here in the mid-atlantic and southeast, when you have miles of mostly featureless beach
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    Do you notice how much better the last 2 pics are? And what are there none of?(at least from what I can see) HOUSES.

    The only reason beaches need to be replenished in nj is because most of the salt marshlands that naturally resupply sand have been destroyed by development on the coastline! Massive amounts of coastline should have been left as a national park then we wouldn't have this insanity. They destroyed these marshes, then the coastline was never able to recover. Now we are stuck either watching the beach completely erode away of setting up jetties, which rob other areas of sand or dumping sand which costs millions to tax payers and destroys sandbars. Now obviously you can still have waves in front a few houses, but you get the idea of what I'm saying. OVERDEVELOPMENT of senstive area's

    Look at blacks beach as good example as well
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  8. #48
    Or this juicy looking break. Never been there, but looks like a sand point break
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    Quote Originally Posted by 34thStreetSurfing View Post
    Theoretically, if I started to dump old cars, cinder blocks, my office supplies, and other assorted debris at my home break slanting to the right, would I have a gnar gnar belmar esque peeling right hander?
    Until you go over the falls and hit the car and break the mirror with your head.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by shark-hunter View Post
    Or this juicy looking break. Never been there, but looks like a sand point break
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    hey shark hunter. A lot of your pics aren't showing up.