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    Stop nj beach replenishment and jetty notching!!!!!

    Tell the ACOE to removing notching of the jetties from their plan until they can provide evidence
    of its impact. Public comments can be submitted by email to Howard.Ruben@usace.army.mil until Tuesday, March 25.


    ...if you showed up to tonights protest in Monmouth County good on ya! Solid turnout, mainly fishermen but a handful of concerned surfers. On a personal note, I feel as if the fishermen are really a mobilized group around here. Unlike the majority of surfers, they are not apathetic. NJ surfers need to be more proactive (myself included). Please get the word out, send those emails, or there may not be anything left for you to ride let alone discuss on this forum. I understand that many of you feel as if it is a lost cause and your voices will not be heard but you do matter! Sitting around and complaining about it, without being proactive instead of reactive post replenishment will not do us any good. Thank you for your consideration.

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    fishermen stick together,they have their own tribe.surfers have too much ego and don't want to be friendly or cooperate in important matters like br.br definitely screws up the fishing

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    I pulled up at 552. Missed the big moment. But I was able to get the email and online petition info of a dude who lives right on deal lake and loch arbor.

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    Rather than fighting replenishment. Why not fight HOW they replenish so it doesn't affect surf breaks. Truth of the matter is you destroyed your coastlines natural replenishment by overdeveloping and rising seas due to climate change(natural and man made). So now you either have to replenish some spots or there will be no beach and no waves to surf. It will just smash into rocks/sea wall that would eventually have to be built.

    Here's a classic example of beach erosion in matunuck
    http://www.ecori.org/climate-change/...y-on-edge.html
    One of the facebook commenters said it best "State and local government's should not be burdened with the added expense of maintaining seawalls for residents that have chosen to live or own vacation homes in hurricane prone areas."
    Ocean mist during a storm:
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    Ocean mist regularly:
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    There used to be a BIG BEACH there. Now nothing. Waves just slam into rocks/onto the tiny bit of sand that is left. Matunuck point break is a different spot and is a rock reef. Don't confuse the two.

    That area had a history of flooding FOR A LONG time before anything was built due to rising seas in the area, yet they decided to build homes on stilts. The combination of destroying natural salt marshes that replenish beaches with sand as well as a rising sea in areas of the east coast is the cause of this.
    Last edited by shark-hunter; Mar 22, 2014 at 01:23 AM.

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    thank you for sharing shark hunter. are you from nj? if so you should make some suggestions to the email address listed above. if not, what do you see as being a more effective means of replenishment?

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    I would've definitely went to that protest if I knew about it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKennedy View Post
    thank you for sharing shark hunter. are you from nj? if so you should make some suggestions to the email address listed above. if not, what do you see as being a more effective means of replenishment?
    No I'm not for nj.

    There's ways to replenish by using the correct grain of sand and filling a beach "not straight". They tend to use grains of sands that won't be pulled out into sandbars.(they still get destroyed in big storms though). The wave action will pull in sand from off the beach. By not straight, I mean fill the beach so it's not completely parrallel. That's the way a natural beach is and make for great waves and more safe non steep beaches. The type of beach that is always high tide and you take 2 steps in you're in neck deep water has no sandbar. It's been wiped out by bad replenishment. It causes a shore pound conditions which is dangerous and less fun to swim and play in the waves as well.

    The army corp does not care one iota about anything other than property protection for mostly the wealthy beachfront homeowners. Even it costs the same they wouldn't bother. That's where protesting is effective. Make them care and then they will replenish while still taking into account preserving sandbars.
    Last edited by shark-hunter; Mar 22, 2014 at 03:36 PM.

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    maybe some Delaware surfers could confirm this.

    http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...waves/6741019/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKennedy View Post
    maybe some Delaware surfers could confirm this.

    http://www.delawareonline.com/story/...waves/6741019/
    That article is absolutely true. Most of the delaware surf breaks have been destroyed from replenishment projects over the past decade. Its not just about replenishing or not replenishing, its about how they go about the replenishment, the type of sand they are using, etc, etc...

    The decision makers overlook how the replenishment effects the surf zone, which is mistake, not only for surfers, but for all beach goers who enjoy playing in the waves. In Delaware, we are now acutely aware of better practices of replenishment that are more conducive for sandbar formation and such. Talk to Surfrider and have them correspond with the Delaware Chapter who has been through this all.

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    Fishermen do not stick together.. .They pull the same localism sh!t surfers do. They are just as "unfriendly" as surfers

    Quote Originally Posted by cepriano View Post
    fishermen stick together,they have their own tribe.surfers have too much ego and don't want to be friendly or cooperate in important matters like br.br definitely screws up the fishing