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    Mini-simmons from from old Longboard

    I have a few beater long boards laying around. Not worth fixing, couldn't bring myself to get rid of them. they've just been taking up space.

    Grabbed one the other day and laid it on some saw horses. It's just over 8'. Not a traditional longboard. It looks almost like a fish. Thing is damn near 24" wide. Picked it up decades ago as an "extra" for $50 when I was buying a longboard from someone. It was always a fund board. Was even a community board in my old neighborhood at the beach for a year.

    Ok enough memory lane. it's ugly as hell. Countless strips of old duct tape, ugly patcghes, nearly 5 foot of the deck is delaminated, but sitting there on teh saw horses, I see the front 5-6 feet has a pretty nice outline, and pretty nice rocker. I laid a few of my small wave boards on top of it for comparison. An old retro fish, by current coil disc, and the rocker is similar. The old board is a little flatter then either, but the curves are in teh right spot.

    So cut the the chase, I'm thing of hacking about the front 5'8" off, skinning the tail, and any other loose glass off, but leaving the sections of glass that are decent in tact. Reglassing it, and throwing some twin fins on there, and giving it a whirl.

    One concern is the rails on what will be the tail. The rails in that section are "eggish" whats the term 50/50 rails? But the board is tthined down at the rails, so they aren't super thick like you might expect them to be in close to teh middle of a board. if i have to skin the rails and reshape them, I'll likrly destroy the thing, but I'm confident i can cut it, clean up the loose glass, and reglass it water tight (albeit ugly).

    Best I can tell, the bottom what would now be the tail of this frankenstein board is just flat, no V, no concave, just flat. Mostly flat throughout with a touch of displacement towards the nose.

    Am I crazy? Does this have any chance of working? Anyone ever try this? Complete waste of time?

    It has good size twin fins, and a center box. I used to ride it as a twin, because it was fun as hell that way, although to look at it you wouldn't expect it to be. I was thinking of re-using those twin fins. They are in some kind of bozes I've never heard of. i would likely cut them and glass them on because I think I have a better shot of doing that successfully since I've reattached finds before. hell, i could use some old FCS fins I have laying around for that matter, but these 2 each have a small flat spot on the ends from a misfortunate "slide off the car roof on rt 35 incident", which could add some character to her.

    Clearly this would be low budget, some glass resin and fin rope, and the saw of my choosing, all of which I may have in the garage.

    Anyway, would love to hear thoughts. Stupid idea? Feel free to tear me apart on this :-)

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    You do know that by the time you strip any of the fiberglass off it will take a lot of foam with it. It will end up very thin depending on how thick it was to start. I say if you want a real mini simmons thing get a blank and shape one. Don't waste your time polishing turds. Unless you have time to waste then polish away. I mean we are commenting on SI so we must have time to waste, correct? I for one would like to own a highly polished platypus stool to display next to my prized dehydrated cat.

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    I say go for it. Why the hell not? Worst case is you learn something new, best case is you create a board worthy of surfing. It's gonna be flat for a bit anyway...

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    Strip all of the glass off, and use the middle of the board, not the tail or nose sections. It will leave you more foam to work with, and you can get closer to the rails and rocker you want. You'll just need to do a lot of foiling.

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    I have seen this done and from what I could tell it worked fine. Certainly not a conventional ride but they floated well and caught waves like a mutant. The typical simmons style that I have ever shaped have been not much more than the front end of a longboard, low entry rocker, soft rails and hard at the tail. I would leave the glass on, feather the edges of the glass near the tail, laminate the tail overlapping the old glass. Glass on a couple of keels, hot coat, sand and be done with it. Should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbanzobean View Post
    You do know that by the time you strip any of the fiberglass off it will take a lot of foam with it. It will end up very thin depending on how thick it was to start. I say if you want a real mini simmons thing get a blank and shape one. Don't waste your time polishing turds. Unless you have time to waste then polish away. I mean we are commenting on SI so we must have time to waste, correct? I for one would like to own a highly polished platypus stool to display next to my prized dehydrated cat.
    TAKE THAT BACK! I have the nicest turd collection around. I work 50 hours a week min, and have three kids ages 6 and under, I have all the time in the world :-)

    Your points are very valid. If I did it, my plan would be to strip the loose glass, that is already detached from the deck. Still, likely not worth the time, I get it. But what if it's the golden turd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    I have seen this done and from what I could tell it worked fine. Certainly not a conventional ride but they floated well and caught waves like a mutant. The typical simmons style that I have ever shaped have been not much more than the front end of a longboard, low entry rocker, soft rails and hard at the tail. I would leave the glass on, feather the edges of the glass near the tail, laminate the tail overlapping the old glass. Glass on a couple of keels, hot coat, sand and be done with it. Should be fun.
    I like this plan, but I have to take some glass of. This thing is delammed on the deck so a lot of the glass is completely separated from the foam. IThe board is so sad in it's current state. But the worst of it is in the tail of the board, and the section i am eying doesn't include the worst of the delam.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBCrew View Post
    Strip all of the glass off, and use the middle of the board, not the tail or nose sections. It will leave you more foam to work with, and you can get closer to the rails and rocker you want. You'll just need to do a lot of foiling.
    I think this is beyond my skills. I've heard skinning the fiberglass off when it's attached, can be tough, as garbanzo mentioned. I heard a putty knife helps, you can slide it under the glass as you go, but the rails can be tricky and it can be time consuming. No doubt it would yield better results to start fresh, but then I would have to actually shape it!

    I read the middle section of a longboard blank is a good starting point to, but this thing is not your typical longboard. if I wasn't at work I'd post a pic.

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    I have a Stewart Hydrohull that has part of the glass stripped off. Another delam casualty. I haven't been able to decide whether it's worth fixing, or doing something else with. So it just hangs on the garage wall in shame.

    It was a pretty sweet board before it started to delam, so it's hard for me to attack that one. But if I was going to strip all the glass of a board to get a usable blank, that would be the one. It carries a lot of foam.

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    I've done this to an old longboard before.

    I pretty much went the route LBCrew describes above, and it wasn't too bad. If you have an oscillating tool (like a a dremel or something), taking the glass off should be the easiest part of the project. You do have to be careful around the rails, but the glass should come pretty easy in large "sheets" for the most part if it's pretty old. Do wear the right PPE, though!

    Why not re-shape it into something your 6 year-old can surf/learn to surf on? Maybe involve them in the whole project or something too?
    Last edited by sheetglass; Apr 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM.