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Thread: Riots in Rio ahead of ASP event
Apr 29, 2014, 06:38 PM #11Senior Member
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Apr 29, 2014, 06:42 PM #12Senior Member
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Apr 29, 2014, 07:14 PM #13
Not to get into international politics, but I have been disturbed for years since I heard that the World Cup was going to Rio. I understand that they are a huge component to international soccer and its history, but in certain socio-economic climates, the world shot not reward an area that has so many human rights issues, violence, drugs etc. It just seemed crazy to take one of the most dangerous cities in the world, second only to probably mexico city and giving them the world cup. I mean, they have militarized that city for the past 4 years basically trying to control the people until the smoke clears and the summer ends.
Terrible place for the World Cup. Crappy waves for an ASP event. Maybe it's time to pack up and stop contributing to their economy when they turn around and treat their people so poorly and rather than solving the issues there, they just keep everyone in a cage until the world leaves... And how are you going to protect the international soccer crowds when you can't handle taking care of your own people.
I always remember that part of the surf video Hit and Run when Shane Dorian talks about how he was robbed at gun point on the beach in Brazil by a 12 year old and how they got his board and explained that he knew without a doubt, this kid would have blown his brains out without thinking twice.
Rio has always been a crooked place. Bullets literally rain down from the sky. Its an open air drug market. Yeah, let's have the next World Cup there. And you know what? Lets have the next one in Qatar. I would LOVE to see the bank accounts of all the Fifa Execs. Filled with Drug money and Oil money. Sweet. Cause there aren't a million better places to have these events.
Apr 29, 2014, 07:25 PM #14Senior Member
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what instead we need to do is lasso one of perus' 'A' quality point breaks and toss it into the mix so as to include nuestra amigos sud americanos. theres' a beaut (herradura) in town in lima…la tercera section…nice.
nuestra amigos brasileņos/peruanos/chilenos/argentenos
Apr 29, 2014, 08:12 PM #15Senior Member
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So are they rioting against the police or against the drug gangs that have infiltrated their towns?
I always find it amusing that gangs can kill thousands of people and each other a year, yet one cop beats someone up or has to shoot someone and everyone riots.
Let them burn down their own houses I say.
Apr 29, 2014, 08:20 PM #16
to see our LEO's commit heinous human rights abuses
and I am assuming by shot you mean should?
Apr 29, 2014, 08:34 PM #17
So, this is what I imagine happened. About 5 years ago, the local authorities, who are getting an in flux of billions of dollars probably had a sit down with the leaders of all the drug cartels up in the foothills. They said look, for about 2 months prior to, until everyone is gone, we are going to need you and your guys to stay out of town. We will pay for it. Since you are more powerful than the polic and military, we will pay you X millions of dollars, to kindly, politely keep your presence out of the city until the games are over. We won't bust you. We won't harrass you. Shoot, we will even pay you. Do it for nationalism. Do it for soccer. Do it for Brasil.
And this week, some back alley little group didn't follow the direct orders to vacate town, so they had to move and and get them out. Assuming it wasn't even a large cartel factor, just some local yahoos that thought they could capitalize on the situation...
Like I said, its a shame that the leaders in Rio can clean house when the World Cup is coming and spruce up their city, but when there isn't money involved, they just let people kill, pillage and plunder and give the ol' mexican answer: They are stronger than we are... Well, maybe it's time you forfeit your nation to someone who can come in there and take care of business.
Apr 29, 2014, 08:42 PM #18
I am just saying, if you can't clean up Rio, don't hold the games there. Have it in a more remote location... I mean, Baltimore can Barely clean up Park Heights for one weekend during Preakness, so I would NEVER recommend having a few hundred thousand people setup shop in NW Bmore for any period of time...
No country is perfect, but the US does NOT look the other way on violence and drug trade. I mean, this country has crackheads doing 25-life for possession. Most gun laws keep people in jail forever over that stuff. ANd even in Baltimore, when a cartel surfaces, the cops man up, suit up and have a shoot out. Not just cause there is a circus in town.... We are a big country with big problems, but we try....
Rio makes detroit look like candy land.
Our society does turn a blind eye to the projects etc. But ohh well. People in the inner city killing other people from the inner city over turf and crack. Raining machine gun bullets into a heavily populated city, burning people alive and killing thousands of innocent people who have nothing to do with the drug trade is a bit different. Generally speaking, if you aint looking for trouble in detroit, you wont find it. If you are walking through the projects at night, yeah you are going to have problems... Same with Baltimore. its very rare that you see guys in the inner harbor getting robbed and gunned down. If you get yourself in trouble in Baltimore, you are probably in the wrong part of town, for a VERY wrong reason...
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Apr 29, 2014, 08:48 PM #19
Apr 29, 2014, 08:58 PM #20
I mean, are there really any "drug cartels" left in this country? Not to my knowledge. Yeah, there are dealers in every city to provide for the fiends. But there is really no one in the US that runs the drug game. Mexico runs it up to Chicago and its widely distributed and the Feds run all over the place trying to stop it.
If there is one thing I will say out government puts a lot of effort into, its fighting the ridiculous drug war and throwing people win guns in jail for a long time...