IMO, most surf shops, especially on the EC are geared towards spur of the moment spending. Tourists that have money to burn and want a rash guard for 3 days. Or that want to buy a nice pair of boardies for their kinds on the beach, or will pay $80 for reef sandals with a bottle opener on them. They are impulse buyers.
Sure, a lot of us know great shops, that give us great service, but I can't imagine too many shops that stay alive catering to the winter warriors....
People don't think, Im going to the Jersey shore in two months, I better order boardies online and all that. They just say, man, i'm at the beach now, let me run in there and grab a pair of shades, or boardies, or whatever.
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Thread: Local Vs. Value
May 7, 2014, 08:46 PM #21
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- Jan 2009
- Hilton Head Island - OB, SD
May 7, 2014, 09:11 PM #22
May 7, 2014, 09:18 PM #23
People all have their own reason for buying local... or not. (Great grammar, huh?) Some people buy local boards just because it makes them feel good... pride, loyalty, whatever. Some people buy local boards because they have a history with the shaper... or they get a good deal... or they like to have input into what they're buying. I'm saying all of these things because all of these things have "value."... whether it's monetary or otherwise.
Personally, I think a small time, local shaper is more likely to give you a good deal if you give him good, honest information about how and where you surf, show him what you ride and tell him what the board doesn't do that you want it to do better, and give him some idea of basic dims you're looking for. At that point you get out of his way, and let the shaper put his local knowledge and skills to work. If you do that, you're likely to get a board that's well under the price of an off the rack name brand, and has a very good chance of being better than the board you currently ride. And when I say "shaper," I mean board builder... and one with more than 3 boards and a logo to to his name.
Do NOT expect to get that same price, and ask for extra fin boxes, fins, leash, traction pad, free repairs, resin tint, pinlines, and gloss and polish. If you want all that at a bargain basement price... go to a corporate shop and you'll find tons of computer designed, machine shaped, mass-produced boards of varying quality craftsmanship (some quite excellent), with or without a few feebees, because they can do it all for cheap. They have a factory, they buy in bulk, and they line up a dozen boards a day and glass them all at once.
If... on the other hand... you want to bring your shaper a particular color sample, a picture of your current girlfriend's butt printed out on rice paper, customize your glass schedule, request specific combinations of resin, request a specific density of foam, and give him foil thickness and rocker measurements in mm every 6 inches, don't expect a board that's $100 less than the Big Name Brand. Expect to pay MORE. But then again... to YOU... it may have more "value.'
Oh... and my blanks, resin, cloth, and vast majority of my tools are all made in the US. Here's why...
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If you can't read what that says, it says...
Last edited by LBCrew; May 7, 2014 at 10:16 PM.
May 7, 2014, 09:57 PM #24
buying quiksiver volcom boardies and ts are for rich people.i don't mind rocking the op's from walmart,they used to be a big surf sponser in the 90s
May 8, 2014, 01:49 AM #25
I buy all my stuff from sunsations.
May 8, 2014, 03:00 AM #27
All my gear I buy local. Sort of. I'll head down to the OBX for a board or a wetsuit just because I can get stuff cheaper and there's more shops to shop around in. Then I just use it as an excuse to see my uncle. My last trip down I was looking for a single fin, found a nice 6'3 that is now my favorite shortboard. Any way, I don't know if that's still considered local but it's my way of getting a more reasonable price. There's really only a handful of shops around me.
Small stuff like leashes, traction pads, yada yada I'll buy at my local shop. My dad actually grew up across the street from the family that owns the shop so I feel the need to throw my money there way if I need something, and they have it.
With all that being said, cloths and boardshorts are ridiculous. I just straight up don't wear that stuff. I'm in a wetsuit year round, I actually don't own any trunks. If I go swimming its in basketball shorts. Plus that crap is just way over priced, and I don't need it so I can't justify spending money on it
I've bought custom boards, talked about my needs and had him shape a board for me. Board was great but I crushed the deck in less than a year. Shaped a bunch of boards for myself, some rode great others not, crushed all the decks in less than a year. Bought a bunch of Bings, crushed all the decks in less than a year, all except one that was super glassed and weighed a ton. Same for other brands off the rack, all virtually destroyed in under 12 months. Last year I bought a firewire, mostly because a friend had one that I tried and loved. Rode it for the last year and it looks brand new other than a few dents on the bottom from my sons boney butt sitting on it at the beach. How you view value is the key, firewires are expensive as hell but for me they are worth it for the simple fact that they resist crushing better than any other board I have ever owned. I know I could go local and would prefer to keep my money local but I have yet to ride aboard as solid as my firewires and despite the hate for them they are the best value for my limited money. Pop out, china junk etc aside they ride great.
Last edited by Zippy; May 8, 2014 at 03:25 AM.
My first board I bought was from a smaller business in san Diego. Customer service was great. Enjoyed the board. Still have it but its a seven foot and epoxy. I found I like poly better. Most of the shops here sell used on consignment. I got my 9' single fin Becker, used and highly damaged for 100 bucks. Also got a 6'3" 7S for 200. Its ok. Got it from a local shop too that was selling it on consignment. Its in good condition but I'm not crazy about it. The board I love is my 6'9" custom. I told the guy what I liked and didnt like about my other boards and he really hooked me up. He has been shaping here for almost 30 years. Its a great board. I will probably try to do that again next time. He gave me a really good deal on my wetsuit too so I was happy.
I don't feel bad about asking what's on sale. Thats the only way I get clothes from local shops. No way I'm paying 60 for boardshorts. I just got a pair for 35. I still feel like thats kinda high. I guess the consignment deal supports local shops and surfers. I definitely like to support them but I'm not gonna just throw my money away. And if there are some super cheap boardies online I will pick them up.
May 8, 2014, 12:57 PM #30Senior Member
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- Oct 2008
Never had real stretch of good luck working directly with a shaper. Ive made purchases from shapers in MD, NC, FL, CA and HI. Best two were Lynn shell at HIC and Robert Strickland in FL (sadly he passed away). I am a man of larger carriage so I like epoxy for the float. I basically buy right off the rack now. I get a little bro discount from my local shop but that is about it. I am in the market for a new high performance longboard so if someone on here has suggestions please provide. I am looking to replace one of the best longboards on the planet - Walden Magic model. I still think they are some of the best lb made but prices are friggin ridiculous. Board I paid $850 for 4yrs ago is $1300 now. Thus, I am willing to try something new.