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    harder or easier to surf the northeast?

    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!

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    East coast surfing = blue collar surfing.

    Ya gotta work at it. Whether that means constantly paddling around to get in position, pumping and working your butt off to get the most out of a 5 sec closeout, or driving around chasing swells, ya still gotta put the work in.

    Always envied them fellers that could walk out and hit the same peeling right hander day after day, with all the time in the world to play around. Bastiges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlokein View Post
    East coast surfing = blue collar surfing.

    Ya gotta work at it. Whether that means constantly paddling around to get in position, pumping and working your butt off to get the most out of a 5 sec closeout, or driving around chasing swells, ya still gotta put the work in.

    Always envied them fellers that could walk out and hit the same peeling right hander day after day, with all the time in the world to play around. Bastiges.
    Just moved from east to west coast. Grew up on the east coast (Long Island) chasing inconsistent, mostly sh***y swell, that's often short-lived when it even gets good. Out west it seems 80% of the time I go out there are good waves to be had so long that you know the spots and how they work with the tides. A "small day" out here could be considered a dream day back east.

    I do think it takes a lot more dedication and skill to get rides on sub-par east coast waves...but living in an area with consistently good conditions gives you a lot of mileage to get practice on.
    Last edited by mattybrews; Jul 30, 2014 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlokein View Post
    East coast surfing = blue collar surfing.

    Ya gotta work at it. Whether that means constantly paddling around to get in position, pumping and working your butt off to get the most out of a 5 sec closeout, or driving around chasing swells, ya still gotta put the work in.....
    I have to agree with that. If I just went by all the 0-1 and 1-2 ft forecasts and reports we've been seeing for VB pretty much since May, might not even try going out. I know it's been repeated here ad nauseam, but it comes down to checking out the various spots at different times for yourself.
    More than occasionally this summer I've lucked out and conditions were considerably better than forecasted or even reported. Conditions might require a lot of paddling to get situated, especially on those choppy afternoons. Sometimes it may be just a brief window of opportunity when the conditions are just right for an hour, or two at most. It can be hit or miss - especially if you're working or have other responsibilities and free time is limited. But it's worth the effort. Otherwise you might write off the entire summer and never go out.

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    I like to compare Northeast surfing to Northeast skiing. If you live and grow up dealing with the conditions and then travel or move to places with great, consistent conditions, you'll quickly be just as good, if not better than the locals in your surf/ski paradise.

    However, if the person who grew up and lives in a place with great, consistent conditions comes and tries their hand in the northeast, they'll probably be pouting and frustrated within twenty minutes and most likely never come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DosXX View Post
    I have to agree with that. If I just went by all the 0-1 and 1-2 ft forecasts and reports we've been seeing for VB pretty much since May, might not even try going out. I know it's been repeated here ad nauseam, but it comes down to checking out the various spots at different times for yourself.
    More than occasionally this summer I've lucked out and conditions were considerably better than forecasted or even reported. Conditions might require a lot of paddling to get situated, especially on those choppy afternoons. Sometimes it may be just a brief window of opportunity when the conditions are just right for an hour, or two at most. It can be hit or miss - especially if you're working or have other responsibilities and free time is limited. But it's worth the effort. Otherwise you might write off the entire summer and never go out.
    Right on DosXX. Was in Wilmy last weekend, flat on Sat, woke up at 5:45AM Sunday and checked cams/fcast for DP. Clean but small peelers. Figured even if I rousted Mrs. Tlok right then I'd get about an hour before the tide killed it. Not worth waking my honey badger. I figured once the tide started dropping about and hour or two later I'd catch the same swell, maybe a little smaller. Sure enough a couple hours we were in the water and I got about 2hrs of small but clean and fun little waves.

    If I just went by the fcast I'd have skipped it. Ya just gotta get out there.

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    There's a reason that most of the best surfers in the world come from the worst waves in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultersurfer View Post
    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!
    yup. But there are plenty of left points all over the world. Most of the west coast and mexico is righties though. But i get your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultersurfer View Post
    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!
    But there is another side to that equation. Most guys get good surfing on the EC if they work hard at it, but inevitably, they move to different locations. Because, yeah, if you want to learn the fundamentals of surfing, the EC is a great place to do so... But you are never going to experience waves around here like that. You won't know what a 300 yard point break feels like, throwing 18 turns on the same wave and really be able to lay out insane runs all on the same wave. You can get good here, but you won't get GREAT unless you travel some. That goes for anyone, from anywhere. Its like the Brazilians. They are great at punchy beach break airs, but it took them a few years to get the style dialed in on those big points.

    But it's whatever. There is a reason Kelly left Florida as a teenager to CA, then onto HI. The hobgoods didn't get famous in Florida either. They got good there, they got GREAT around the world.

    The best surfer, in this generation that I know of from back home in Maryland, showed up in a line up next to me in SoCal about 7 years ago. I was like, hey, aren't you ***** *? He said, yeah. I said what are you doing out here. He said, I moved here. He has since moved back, but there comes a time regardless of if you are from CA or Jersey, you gotta get out and see different waves if you want to get GREAT.... And surfing heavy east coast surf, even for the pros is a humbling experience when its on. Surfing here can be just as difficult as anywhere in the world when things get heavy. You don't get out through channels with dry hair when its TOH here. You gotta work for it. And bleed for it.