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    harder or easier to surf the northeast?

    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!

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    East coast surfing = blue collar surfing.

    Ya gotta work at it. Whether that means constantly paddling around to get in position, pumping and working your butt off to get the most out of a 5 sec closeout, or driving around chasing swells, ya still gotta put the work in.

    Always envied them fellers that could walk out and hit the same peeling right hander day after day, with all the time in the world to play around. Bastiges.

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    There's a reason that most of the best surfers in the world come from the worst waves in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultersurfer View Post
    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!
    yup. But there are plenty of left points all over the world. Most of the west coast and mexico is righties though. But i get your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultersurfer View Post
    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!
    But there is another side to that equation. Most guys get good surfing on the EC if they work hard at it, but inevitably, they move to different locations. Because, yeah, if you want to learn the fundamentals of surfing, the EC is a great place to do so... But you are never going to experience waves around here like that. You won't know what a 300 yard point break feels like, throwing 18 turns on the same wave and really be able to lay out insane runs all on the same wave. You can get good here, but you won't get GREAT unless you travel some. That goes for anyone, from anywhere. Its like the Brazilians. They are great at punchy beach break airs, but it took them a few years to get the style dialed in on those big points.

    But it's whatever. There is a reason Kelly left Florida as a teenager to CA, then onto HI. The hobgoods didn't get famous in Florida either. They got good there, they got GREAT around the world.

    The best surfer, in this generation that I know of from back home in Maryland, showed up in a line up next to me in SoCal about 7 years ago. I was like, hey, aren't you ***** *? He said, yeah. I said what are you doing out here. He said, I moved here. He has since moved back, but there comes a time regardless of if you are from CA or Jersey, you gotta get out and see different waves if you want to get GREAT.... And surfing heavy east coast surf, even for the pros is a humbling experience when its on. Surfing here can be just as difficult as anywhere in the world when things get heavy. You don't get out through channels with dry hair when its TOH here. You gotta work for it. And bleed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polevaultersurfer View Post
    ok ive been thinking even though the waves aren't usually as big or powerful as other places in the world,i believe it is harder to surf and get good here than a lot of other places in the world, I mean think about it, places with perfect point breaks like Margaret river, j-bay, Rincon etc are predictable breaks, always a right . ive never surfed off of long island besides a few jersey and rhode island trips so I wouldn't know. I just feel like having to surf an ever changing beach break with rips and shifting sand and windswell is way harder than in many places, I would love to hear some input!
    Jeffrey's Bay looks like a pretty hard wave to surf to me. mad fast sections, turns have to be nailed perfectly to avoid falling behind. Finding a barrel you can make it out of looks really hard and technical. Beautiful wave. Occy looked like a klutz on it the other day in that heritage event and my guess is he would surf our beach breaks pretty well.

    Rincon looks like the crowd pressure is INTENSE. It is a beautiful wave but I cant even imagine how much it must throw you off to be devoting about 75% of your concentration constantly jockeying for position.

    I guess I'm just saying video and photos probably make a lot of other waves look easier than they are for all kinds of reasons. I've shot video of a good day on Delmarva and it just makes getting barreled look easy after you edit out all of the BS. If I were from somewhere else I would conclude that the wave is a whole lot easier and more mannered than it really is by a long shot.
    Last edited by mitchell; Jul 29, 2014 at 11:40 PM.

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    Way harder to surf on the coast of no waves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlokein View Post
    East coast surfing = blue collar surfing.

    Ya gotta work at it. Whether that means constantly paddling around to get in position, pumping and working your butt off to get the most out of a 5 sec closeout, or driving around chasing swells, ya still gotta put the work in.

    Always envied them fellers that could walk out and hit the same peeling right hander day after day, with all the time in the world to play around. Bastiges.
    Just moved from east to west coast. Grew up on the east coast (Long Island) chasing inconsistent, mostly sh***y swell, that's often short-lived when it even gets good. Out west it seems 80% of the time I go out there are good waves to be had so long that you know the spots and how they work with the tides. A "small day" out here could be considered a dream day back east.

    I do think it takes a lot more dedication and skill to get rides on sub-par east coast waves...but living in an area with consistently good conditions gives you a lot of mileage to get practice on.
    Last edited by mattybrews; Jul 30, 2014 at 12:35 AM.

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    Hard to get a sense of "flow" in a typical EC beachbreak. But there are a few gems around that let you unwind, if you're lucky enough to know where they are, be able to get there when it's on, and hold your own in the crowd.