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  1. #11
    their motto is "reduce, reuse, recycle" in that order so their intent is to make gear that doesn't need to replaced so therefore has a smaller impact. the tradeoff is that they cost more. in theory, you save money but there is more upfront cost. I haven't tried a wetsuit but big fan of their alpine gear. was looking at a 3/2 on steep n cheap but wrong size.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by waterbaby View Post
    seems like most surfers are relatively poor...they're gonna go for the cheaper rip curl or whatever, despite the environmental impact

    I would buy a patagonia, if I had the money...which I currently don't
    Ya think? I notice that a lot of younger surfers (aged 18-30) are privileged little spoiled brats.
    Regardless, I think most people avoid buying these $600 Patagonia wetsuits because they know that saltwater and paddling will disintegrate anything over time. I'd like to see some independent data that proves these suits actually last significantly longer over time. I bet you get like one more year out of them. Not worth it. The environment isn't going to suffer any less if you buy Patagonia. Irresponsible companies and Asian factories will continue polluting the Earth no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salt View Post
    Ya think? I notice that a lot of younger surfers (aged 18-30) are privileged little spoiled brats.
    Regardless, I think most people avoid buying these $600 Patagonia wetsuits because they know that saltwater and paddling will disintegrate anything over time. I'd like to see some independent data that proves these suits actually last significantly longer over time. I bet you get like one more year out of them. Not worth it. The environment isn't going to suffer any less if you buy Patagonia. Irresponsible companies and Asian factories will continue polluting the Earth no matter what.
    So let's party at Walmart dood.

    Seriously, though, what you say is the obvious, we know the corps are massive & a nasty chewing machine on the face of the planet. But, giving up in the face of a-hole corporate behavior? C'mon, mang, that's them taking your buttockals for everything you've got & probably don't even realize. Not a good deal for you, ever, nor for anyone.

    The butterfly effect: a thousand wings DO make a difference at some point. So, I'd say it's worth it to push back on those gigantic corporate fukkkers who are essentially telling you how to live & how to breathe & how to shart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salt View Post
    Ya think? I notice that a lot of younger surfers (aged 18-30) are privileged little spoiled brats.
    Regardless, I think most people avoid buying these $600 Patagonia wetsuits because they know that saltwater and paddling will disintegrate anything over time. I'd like to see some independent data that proves these suits actually last significantly longer over time. I bet you get like one more year out of them. Not worth it. The environment isn't going to suffer any less if you buy Patagonia. Irresponsible companies and Asian factories will continue polluting the Earth no matter what.
    idk anything about Patagonia suits from first hand experience, and have heard mixed reviews from others. Some that love them, some that they are heavy and bulky, in addition to being expensive. My experience with Patagonia surfboards was lousy. I had two of them - poorly made, lousy customer service when I dealt with them about the delams. Dealt with Fletcher C. directly.

    About 6 years ago I bought a Matuse Hoplite 3/2 for about $300 because a shop owner I trusted told me it was lighter, warmer, and just better than the others. Six years later that Matuse is the best suit I've ever owned. Warm, light and durable. I understand the mineral extraction process to mine the limestone for the limestone-based neoprene isn't very green at all.

  5. #15
    Agree with everything.
    Suit was bulky, stiff and way less comfortable than any other of owned.
    Matuse makes a great suit
    Limestone-based neoprene is not green


    Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post
    idk anything about Patagonia suits from first hand experience, and have heard mixed reviews from others. Some that love them, some that they are heavy and bulky, in addition to being expensive. My experience with Patagonia surfboards was lousy. I had two of them - poorly made, lousy customer service when I dealt with them about the delams. Dealt with Fletcher C. directly.

    About 6 years ago I bought a Matuse Hoplite 3/2 for about $300 because a shop owner I trusted told me it was lighter, warmer, and just better than the others. Six years later that Matuse is the best suit I've ever owned. Warm, light and durable. I understand the mineral extraction process to mine the limestone for the limestone-based neoprene isn't very green at all.

  6. #16
    I've got the full suit 2 mil back-zip 2013. It fits well, but it is tight around the neck. Supposedly it loosens up after a while. It is toasty too. Its about as warm as a $300 4/3. We'll see how it holds up over time

  7. #17
    This is great! I love Patagonia. I have one of their hemp shirts and plan to get more. My Xcel 4/3 hooded drylock is headed for its 3rd season. Still in great shape but I do see a few unravelings starting to happen. Sure it will last a few more seasons. Just watched a video of guys surfing in Norway! Bet they wish they had these suits.

  8. #18
    cool idea... gonna wait for the new one