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    FireWires... And other Epoxies

    How do these feel? I've heard different responses on its flex/overall feel. I know its NOT a PU surfboard, but while surfing does it at least feel similar? Or does it float too much and kinda bog? Also if anyone has ridden a new TLPC board from surftech, or even the future flex by HaydenShapes Please feel free to input your experience.


    Thank you for all your responses/input

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    eps/epoxy boards have their pros and cons, depending on the conditions. My experience is most of them are still basically too light. I'm guessing the eps foam (same type styrofoam as in coffee cups) is the main culprit...and most all brands have their own eps formulation/buoyancy and epoxy mixes/flex, so you'd really need to try them all to find the one for you.

    I would still be testing them, but I can't afford the money or time I'd need to invest. At this point, the only thing close I'd even consider paying for is Hydroflex "natural" (epoxy glass over PU foam).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thewaternerd View Post
    How do these feel?
    I hate to complicate things but I don't think you can lump "Firewire...and other Epoxies" into one category that are going to be similar.

    Firewires have parabolic rails and are sandwich construction...that's going have its own feel.
    hand shaped / laminated EPS/epoxy board with a middle stringer...that's going to have its own feel.
    Surftech feels completely different to me than either of these.

    Of all these, just a plain hand laminated EPS epoxy board, with lighter glassing, and a bit more thinned out, can feel pretty similar to a PU/PE board to me.

    I agree with Waterbaby that Epoxy glassing over Poly foam gets you extra durability and keeps the poly feel.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mitchell View Post
    I hate to complicate things but I don't think you can lump "Firewire...and other Epoxies" into one category that are going to be similar.

    Firewires have parabolic rails and are sandwich construction...that's going have its own feel.
    hand shaped / laminated EPS/epoxy board with a middle stringer...that's going to have its own feel.
    Surftech feels completely different to me than either of these.

    Of all these, just a plain hand laminated EPS epoxy board, with lighter glassing, and a bit more thinned out, can feel pretty similar to a PU/PE board to me.

    I agree with Waterbaby that Epoxy glassing over Poly foam gets you extra durability and keeps the poly feel.
    Firewires are popouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surfthewall11 View Post
    Firewires are popouts.

    Any board with a signature name is a pop out. Anytime you can make the same board, the same way, twice---pop out. I love my spitfire and sweet potato from FW. Although I had an older Resin8 Sam Egan that I liked more. Still sandwich epoxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickM View Post
    Any board with a signature name is a pop out. Anytime you can make the same board, the same way, twice---pop out. I love my spitfire and sweet potato from FW. Although I had an older Resin8 Sam Egan that I liked more. Still sandwich epoxy.
    Is this a joke or are you serious? I think the term pop-out is being used incorrectly--FW or any machines board aren't necessarily being "pored into a mold" and then popped out of said mold. Someone is finishing them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfthewall11 View Post
    Firewires are popouts.
    Haha. OK. Well, I love my pop-out. I'll buy another one.

  8. i dont know why in the **** anyone would buy a firewire, chinese pop out that cost $899....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MergatroidSkittle View Post
    i dont know why in the **** anyone would buy a firewire, chinese pop out that cost $899....
    Because they are trendy, look cool, has a name that rhymes, i.e. very catch like a Pop song. And lots of people like them. Not me, never ridden one, but many seem to like how they ride. I've heard some who hate em too. People see others with them, so they follow the crowd I guess, just like CI, Lost, Rusty, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MergatroidSkittle View Post
    i dont know why in the **** anyone would buy a firewire, chinese pop out that cost $899....
    Firewires are the sh**. Sorry man. I don't know any other way to tell you. Let's price some things out, shall we? Here's the breakdown:
    Firewire Baked Potato 5'5 x 21 3/4 x 2 1/2 36L FST Surfboard=$749. If a normal human being rides this board (e.g. someone not pulling an air reverse every other wave or riding shallow reef breaks or basically beating the living sh** out of this) it'll last 3-4 years and still look and feel pretty new. The deck will hold-up and these are very resistant to pressure dings/delams/etc.
    Channel Islands Average Joe 5'7 x 21 7/8 x 2 5/8 Surfboard= $649. P/U glass and foam, shaped by a robot and finished and glassed by a human. This board will last about 2 years until the deck has dents all over it (or delams), and it starts to have that dead lifeless feeling after surfing it a lot (under normal circumstances).
    Lost Couch Potato 5'8 x 22 x 2.5 36.05L 5-fin Surfboard= $679. Same thing as the C.I longevity.

    So, the best bang for your buck is the Firewire if you are a regular surfer like me on a budget. You'll get more out of if in the long-haul. Suq it.