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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spongah View Post
    You can send those back here, and maybe expect 2 more - 4 people died here over the weekend, all of them out "swimming" after the lifeguards left in waist high slop with 10+ kt onshores. That's on top of over 13 rescues, including one dude who rendered himself a quad by jumping headfirst into shorebreak.

    WTF is wrong with people? Western LI and Queens have become the Death Zone.
    ****ing OWW!!!!

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbing View Post
    Actually, it is now-a-days. If you went swimming in NJ in the 70s it was like swimming in garbage. Compared to that, the water is crystal clear. Used to be murky brown on a GOOD day, now a good day it is actually really clean.
    I think it was in the late 80s that NY & NJ started congratulating themselves because they stopped dumping sewage sludge 12 miles offshore, and moved the dumpsite 106 miles offshore and 2500m down.

    Then the beaches had to close in 1987? 1988? because syringes, blood tubes and crack vials were washing up and suddenly someone asked themselves "Gee, I wonder if dumping in this ocean is really a good idea after all??"

    I started surfing around the time of the beach closing saga and the local beaches were FILTHY! They weren't beach combing and the water was Shrek colored on a regular basis. Some days when I go out and look down and see crabs biting my feet, fish, seaweed, etc - I am like....damn. What a difference.

    But back to the people dying/having to be rescued - I don't know what's going on lately other on a large group of people wanting to win Darwin Awards all at once or a very angry Mother Nature. I haven't been down to the Mid-Atlantic area since the Fall, but I am sure over the summer there's the same situation with little kids going out in the water with total lack of parental supervision (umm, it's not a pool, people) and people with lack of swimming skills being all badass and waiting until AFTER the lifeguards leave to go for a swim. I don't get it.

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    Just curious. . .

    What's the normal protocol for guards in NY and NJ? In OCM at the end of their day they start whistling in anyone, and anything in the water. This goes on for about the last five minutes of their shift and all the bathers dutifully exit the water (I suspect this is the city's plan for avoiding legal liability once the guards are off duty). As soon as the guard jumps off his stand and starts pulling it up on the beach for the night, everyone promptly re-enters the water, only this time along with surfers.

    What's the routine where you are, and what is their rationale behind their routine?

  4. #14
    sounds like some one slept with the fishes, don giovanni style. my buddy pf is a lifeguard and he pulled up a dead body last year in vb, and he said it started foaming at the mouth when he hit land.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDSurfer View Post
    What's the normal protocol for guards in NY and NJ? In OCM at the end of their day they start whistling in anyone, and anything in the water. This goes on for about the last five minutes of their shift and all the bathers dutifully exit the water (I suspect this is the city's plan for avoiding legal liability once the guards are off duty). As soon as the guard jumps off his stand and starts pulling it up on the beach for the night, everyone promptly re-enters the water, only this time along with surfers.

    What's the routine where you are, and what is their rationale behind their routine?
    They don't whistle people in when they leave in Manasquan, NJ. Put up the "Lifeguard off duty, swim at own risk" signs and start pulling down the stands. By then, people are usually out of the water minus a few here and there + surfers.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbing View Post
    Actually, it is now-a-days. If you went swimming in NJ in the 70s it was like swimming in garbage. Compared to that, the water is crystal clear. Used to be murky brown on a GOOD day, now a good day it is actually really clean.
    yea now we can see all the thousands of jellyfish in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbing View Post
    They don't whistle people in when they leave in Manasquan, NJ. Put up the "Lifeguard off duty, swim at own risk" signs and start pulling down the stands. By then, people are usually out of the water minus a few here and there + surfers.
    in long branch we whistle people out but we notice right when we get on the boardwalk they get back in and theres nothing you can do about that

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by JerseySurfRat89 View Post
    in long branch we whistle people out but we notice right when we get on the boardwalk they get back in and theres nothing you can do about that
    yep they just don't care

  9. #19
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    To be honest, I say its their own problem, they should understand the risk when swimming with no guards, but stuff does happen. I know for one if I saw someone screaming for help... guards or no guards I'd do my best to help them. For all I know they might not be able to swim and just got pulled out. If I'm already in the water, its that much closer than the life guards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbing View Post
    To be honest, I say its their own problem, they should understand the risk when swimming with no guards, but stuff does happen. I know for one if I saw someone screaming for help... guards or no guards I'd do my best to help them. For all I know they might not be able to swim and just got pulled out. If I'm already in the water, its that much closer than the life guards...
    I'm sure that most would do the same thing including myself.