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    Power rankings? I put the Pats somewhere in the 4-6 range right now. Denver is clearly an offensive juggernaut. Kansas City is legit. I think Seattle is pretty damn good. New Orleans is obviously a good team, so is Indy. I think as it stands, Pats, Saints, and Colts are all right in that 4-6 bunch.

    Pats injuries on the D side are adding up though. Losing mayo for the year is straight devastating. Best player on our defense, and the leader on the field. Now if Talib can't go we're down our top 3 defensive players....this concerns me.

    And Emass, no way did New Orleans outplay the Pats in the first half of the game. Pats were running down their throat with Ridley. They were up 17-7 at half. The Saints only had one drive in the first half that was longer than 35 yards. Second half, pats got rocked until the Saints failed repeatedly to get a first down....huge sequence by a banged-up defense at the end of the game.

    I wonder if putting your top corner (i.e. Talib) on Jimmy Graham will be the new blueprint to at least containing the physical freak that is Graham? I would have thought the size advantage would have been too much to overcome but Talib (and then Arrington) did a pretty damn good job denying him the ball. What good is the added size of a linebacker on Graham if they can't keep up?

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    the patriot have been cursed by god for cutting Tebow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    Power rankings? I put the Pats somewhere in the 4-6 range right now. Denver is clearly an offensive juggernaut. Kansas City is legit. I think Seattle is pretty damn good. New Orleans is obviously a good team, so is Indy. I think as it stands, Pats, Saints, and Colts are all right in that 4-6 bunch.

    Pats injuries on the D side are adding up though. Losing mayo for the year is straight devastating. Best player on our defense, and the leader on the field. Now if Talib can't go we're down our top 3 defensive players....this concerns me.

    And Emass, no way did New Orleans outplay the Pats in the first half of the game. Pats were running down their throat with Ridley. They were up 17-7 at half. The Saints only had one drive in the first half that was longer than 35 yards. Second half, pats got rocked until the Saints failed repeatedly to get a first down....huge sequence by a banged-up defense at the end of the game.

    I wonder if putting your top corner (i.e. Talib) on Jimmy Graham will be the new blueprint to at least containing the physical freak that is Graham? I would have thought the size advantage would have been too much to overcome but Talib (and then Arrington) did a pretty damn good job denying him the ball. What good is the added size of a linebacker on Graham if they can't keep up?
    Man, I do love my football and my Patriots, but really, I just let them play and I enjoy watching. I don't break it down too much. They've been getting hurt and having weird things happen for so many years, I've just learned to trust because they're always in it. Even 2 of the last 3 years when they were the best AFC team but blew it, I'm ok with it because we are in the SB every few years and winning AFC East every damn year.

    Look at the Giants. Heroes to zeroes. Feel blessed we never have to sustain such an abrupt fall from grace. We are always in the mix and I have full faith in this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    Was there holding on all 8 plays of the 70 yard drive in just over a minute? There's holding on every pass play in the league braddah. It's a matter of who get's called for it or not. Same for contact off the line between WR/DB and also the push off when the ball is arriving in that matchup. Too many blown calls in all of the NFL year in and out to debate them. Kind of a fact of life we have to accept and trust that they'll be a wash in the end.
    No I was only talking about the last play, if the refs called it like they should have, the patriots would have lost. point blank it was a gift. I don't think there is holding on every single play, a lot of them yes, and i agree it's all a matter of who gets called. But, comon that hold was noticable in a huge way...refs just turned their heads just like Belichick likes. NFL needs to do a better job getting this resolved. And for a game winning play it should have been absolutely reviewed. The Patriots record is actually better then they are. And i'm a firm believer that that will show come playoff season.
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    You wanted them to review the final play and then call a penalty based on their review? Learn the rules.

    If you'd like to blame that last play on someone, blame in on Jabari Greer for losing his man in the endzone, or the safety for leaving a WR in single coverage in the endzone, on a play that HAD to be thrown to the endzone. Poor defensive execution.

    There are missed calls in every NFL game. In the grand scheme of missed calls, that is a pretty minor hold. Screenshots don't tell the story. Watch the play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmassSpicoli View Post
    When teams like the 5-0 Saints who've outplayed the Pats for the first 58:57 of the game end up losing, they're shocked, despondent, and really lack clear understanding of how that just happened.

    If they aren't the best team in the NFL right now, then who's gonna beat them next?
    You and everyone else knows what happened....a hold that was not called ends the game unfairly.

    Do you really think that NE is the best team?? Thanks for the laugh! What happens when my underachieving JETS win this week? Don't even say it can't happen, cause it can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    You wanted them to review the final play and then call a penalty based on their review? Learn the rules.

    If you'd like to blame that last play on someone, blame in on Jabari Greer for losing his man in the endzone, or the safety for leaving a WR in single coverage in the endzone, on a play that HAD to be thrown to the endzone. Poor defensive execution.

    There are missed calls in every NFL game. In the grand scheme of missed calls, that is a pretty minor hold. Screenshots don't tell the story. Watch the play.
    learn the rules? lmao...

    If you would have read my post instead of attacking it you would have seen I said the NFL needs to fix this and that a final game winning play like in this game should be reviewed. If this play was reviewed the Pats would have lost. I never said it was a rule, I simply said it should be.

    Regardless of who lost cover, there was a hold that should have ended the game in a loss. The only one's responsible for there win was the refs.

    that is a minor hold?? Look at homeboy...he basically has a rear naked choke hold going on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguaholic View Post
    You and everyone else knows what happened....a hold that was not called ends the game unfairly.

    Do you really think that NE is the best team?? Thanks for the laugh! What happens when my underachieving JETS win this week? Don't even say it can't happen, cause it can...
    Brah, I said that I could give two RoyCharles asses filled with DosXX's ass sand as to who the "best team in week 7" is. It's gonna be a fun season to watch and follow, as always. Not just for the Pats but the league that's full of surprises this year.

    That snapshot you showed was quite interesting though I'd have to see the whole play on film to draw a conclusion. Then again, NEF said it right when each game is full of blown calls so it's tough to point the finger at one. Did you see the Arizona St. vs. Wisconsin game's ending earlier this year? Crazier happens all the time. With 9 man crews backed by 39 man crews in the booth and behind the scenes. You know what an NFL ref makes in perks alone? Their wives fly first class with them.

    The Jets are in the toilet brah. But it's always fun for our two teams to play. Always heated. I'm a Rex fan and I've said it before. Any guy who keeps at it after the schitt he's taken off the field from the media of non-football stuff is ok in my book. Then he won me over further in That's My Boy with the cameo as the Pats Superfan. I give that man props. But yeah, we are gonna drop you guys for the second time this season. And if we don't, we will be playing in January while you aren't.

    No other team would still be standing let alone winning when they're on their 112th player in week 7. Look at what's going down in Houston. They're booing their field general off the field when he's wounded.

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    I'm going to the Jets-Pats game Sunday.....so stoked.

    Hoping the constant beer shower I'm sure to receive in my pats jersey doesn't make me catch a cold.

    And I definitely don't think penalties (or non-penalties) should be reviewable. That will just slow the game down an absurd amount and create tons of controversy. Human element is present in every sport.

    Also, saying the only ones responsible for the win was the refs is lunacy. If New Orleans doesn't throw on 3rd down, there's no time left on the clock there. If they tackle Dobson inbounds, there's no time left on the clock there. Game's 60 minutes long for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandflatness View Post
    I'm going to the Jets-Pats game Sunday.....so stoked.

    Hoping the constant beer shower I'm sure to receive in my pats jersey doesn't make me catch a cold.

    And I definitely don't think penalties (or non-penalties) should be reviewable. That will just slow the game down an absurd amount and create tons of controversy. Human element is present in every sport.

    Also, saying the only ones responsible for the win was the refs is lunacy. If New Orleans doesn't throw on 3rd down, there's no time left on the clock there. If they tackle Dobson inbounds, there's no time left on the clock there. Game's 60 minutes long for a reason.
    Good for you braddahmang. Should be a fun one. I'm trying to catch Chargers-Broncos while I'm in SD in a few weeks. If so, I will wear Welker Pats jerz.

    He said she said blah blah blah. Pics or it didn't happen. Vines or it didn't happen. Stat book is the law.